Charges of Ukrainian Meddling? A Russian Operation, U.S. Intelligence Says

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In a briefing that closely aligned with Dr. Hill’s testimony, American intelligence officials informed senators and their aides in recent weeks that Russia had engaged in a yearslong campaign to essentially frame Ukraine as responsible for Moscow’s own hacking of the 2016 election, according to three American officials. The briefing came as Republicans stepped up their defenses of Mr. Trump in the Ukraine affair.

The revelations demonstrate Russia’s persistence in trying to sow discord among its adversaries — and show that the Kremlin apparently succeeded, as unfounded claims about Ukrainian interference seeped into Republican talking points. American intelligence agencies believe Moscow is likely to redouble its efforts as the 2020 presidential campaign intensifies. The classified briefing for senators also focused on Russia’s evolving influence tactics, including its growing ability to better disguise operations.


Once again.
" The briefing came as Republicans stepped up their defenses of Mr. Trump in the Ukraine affair. "

So, this was going on at the same time Republicans were using these very talking points to defend Trump.

WTF?
 

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In a briefing that closely aligned with Dr. Hill’s testimony, American intelligence officials informed senators and their aides in recent weeks that Russia had engaged in a yearslong campaign to essentially frame Ukraine as responsible for Moscow’s own hacking of the 2016 election, according to three American officials. The briefing came as Republicans stepped up their defenses of Mr. Trump in the Ukraine affair.

The revelations demonstrate Russia’s persistence in trying to sow discord among its adversaries — and show that the Kremlin apparently succeeded, as unfounded claims about Ukrainian interference seeped into Republican talking points. American intelligence agencies believe Moscow is likely to redouble its efforts as the 2020 presidential campaign intensifies. The classified briefing for senators also focused on Russia’s evolving influence tactics, including its growing ability to better disguise operations.


Once again.
" The briefing came as Republicans stepped up their defenses of Mr. Trump in the Ukraine affair. "

So, this was going on at the same time Republicans were using these very talking points to defend Trump.

WTF?

I know, unbelievable right? The Trump party is off the rails in their "efforts" to defend him.

And another "talking" point debunked

From the link

The accusations of a Ukrainian influence campaign center on actions by a handful of Ukrainians who openly criticized or sought to damage Mr. Trump’s candidacy in 2016. They were scattershot efforts that were far from a replica of Moscow’s interference, when President Vladimir V. Putin ordered military and intelligence operatives to mount a broad campaign to sabotage the American election. The Russians in 2016 conducted covert operations to hack Democratic computers and to use social media to exploit divisions among Americans.

This time, Russian intelligence operatives deployed a network of agents to blame Ukraine for its 2016 interference. Starting at least in 2017, the operatives peddled a mixture of now-debunked conspiracy theories along with established facts to leave an impression that the government in Kyiv, not Moscow, was responsible for the hackings of Democrats and its other interference efforts in 2016, senior intelligence officials said.

Mr. Trump referred elliptically to allegations that Ukraine meddled in the 2016 election and brought up a related conspiracy theory. Asking Mr. Zelensky to “do us a favor,” Mr. Trump added, “I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine.”

So the real question is - why does Moscow Mitch keep blocking all the bills designed to help protect the 2020 election from further interference? Why does he not care about our National Security?
 
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I know, unbelievable right? The Trump party is off the rails in their "efforts" to defend him.

And another "talking" point debunked

From the link

The accusations of a Ukrainian influence campaign center on actions by a handful of Ukrainians who openly criticized or sought to damage Mr. Trump’s candidacy in 2016. They were scattershot efforts that were far from a replica of Moscow’s interference, when President Vladimir V. Putin ordered military and intelligence operatives to mount a broad campaign to sabotage the American election. The Russians in 2016 conducted covert operations to hack Democratic computers and to use social media to exploit divisions among Americans.

This time, Russian intelligence operatives deployed a network of agents to blame Ukraine for its 2016 interference. Starting at least in 2017, the operatives peddled a mixture of now-debunked conspiracy theories along with established facts to leave an impression that the government in Kyiv, not Moscow, was responsible for the hackings of Democrats and its other interference efforts in 2016, senior intelligence officials said.

Mr. Trump referred elliptically to allegations that Ukraine meddled in the 2016 election and brought up a related conspiracy theory. Asking Mr. Zelensky to “do us a favor,” Mr. Trump added, “I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine.”

So the real question is - why does Moscow Mitch keep blocking all the bills designed to help protect the 2020 election from further interference? Why does he not care about our National Security?
But TAKING 80K a month for doing nothing is OK? And this is not "Presumed". Or "Overheard". It is a Proven FACT.
 
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I know, unbelievable right? The Trump party is off the rails in their "efforts" to defend him.

And another "talking" point debunked

From the link

The accusations of a Ukrainian influence campaign center on actions by a handful of Ukrainians who openly criticized or sought to damage Mr. Trump’s candidacy in 2016. They were scattershot efforts that were far from a replica of Moscow’s interference, when President Vladimir V. Putin ordered military and intelligence operatives to mount a broad campaign to sabotage the American election. The Russians in 2016 conducted covert operations to hack Democratic computers and to use social media to exploit divisions among Americans.

This time, Russian intelligence operatives deployed a network of agents to blame Ukraine for its 2016 interference. Starting at least in 2017, the operatives peddled a mixture of now-debunked conspiracy theories along with established facts to leave an impression that the government in Kyiv, not Moscow, was responsible for the hackings of Democrats and its other interference efforts in 2016, senior intelligence officials said.

Mr. Trump referred elliptically to allegations that Ukraine meddled in the 2016 election and brought up a related conspiracy theory. Asking Mr. Zelensky to “do us a favor,” Mr. Trump added, “I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine.”

So the real question is - why does Moscow Mitch keep blocking all the bills designed to help protect the 2020 election from further interference? Why does he not care about our National Security?
He's got his supporters whining about Hunter Biden getting paid all this money. But, they'll say nothing about him fleecing American tax payers making profit at this personal properties. Then, he has the audacity to claim he was concerned about corruption and that's why he refused to provided the aide Ukrainians were waiting for.

He's made America the most corrupt country in the world. Sondland implicated Mulvaney, Pence, Pompeo, and Rick Perry. The evidence is overwhelming that they were all involved in a shake down of a foriegn country. That's along with every Republican in the House. Along with every Republican in the Senate that's likely to acquit him. The only body of our government Trump hasn't corrupted is the House. And that's only because voters made sure Republicans weren't in charge anymore.
 

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But TAKING 80K a month for doing nothing is OK? And this is not "Presumed". Or "Overheard". It is a Proven FACT.
sure that's relevant to the topic. Since you brought it up, we can also talk about how much tax payer money is being spent at Trump properties. It's just another way that Trump is corrupt.

That doesn't excuse Biden taking that position as Burisma. No.

But none of that money came from tax payers.

Right?
 
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Mmmm seems like a lot of Trumpeter's here don't want to comment on this thread.
 

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All these witnesses proved is that Schiff is a stupid ,bungling partisan punk. Comment enough?
This is the US Intelligent Agencies. Which makes ya kinda wonder. When Trump said in his phone call "they say Crowdstrike", who is "they"? The Russians?
 
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