Christian support of Trump problem

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If religion is hunky-dory in politics, it's okay for candidates/politicians to assert Scientology beliefs, Mormon beliefs, Moony Beliefs? What if they had political coalitions running around manipulating policies?
Is one religion better? Who decides this?
Is one religion more constitutionally protected?
 
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If religion is hunky-dory in politics, it's okay for candidates/politicians to assert Scientology beliefs, Mormon beliefs, Moony Beliefs? What if they had political coalitions running around manipulating policies?
Is one religion better? Who decides this?
Is one religion more constitutionally protected?
Some people seem to believe so, especially wrt the Muslim politicians.
 
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Never Trumpers like me have often wondered how Trump could have gained so much support from evangelicals and other Christian right types. Typically they will point out Trump's tax cuts, immigration stances, hardline on GLBT stuff, and of course judge picks on why they can hold their nose and vote for a known liar, cheat, and philanderer. But isn't that contrary to the important principle that the ends do not justify the means? I looked it up to see if I could find a Christian based article discussing it and came up with this one:

What Does the Bible Say About the Ends Justifying the Means



It's also false that they had a choice between Trump and Clinton so they held their nose and voted Trump. They picked Trump over Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, Ted Cruz, Carly Fiorina, Jim Gilmore, Lindsey Graham, Mike Huckabee, Bobby Jindal, John Kasich, George Pataki, Rand Paul, Rick Perry, Marco Rubio, Rick Santorum, and Scott Walker. They had plenty of choices of less sinful candidates. Trump was only paired up against Clinton because they had already decided they were fine with his sinful nature.

So how can Christians decide that the ends justify the means, when that is not supported by biblical study? Isn't that Christians putting Trump ahead of their faith?
Chief, I have come the realization that this IS an all out assault on the American democracy by the American Christian Taliban (ACT). They seek nothing less than theocratic apartheid rule and the implementation of a Christian Sharia. They would willingly destroy our God given and constitutionally guaranteed rights in their zeal to implement their "holy vision" for this country. Trump is a TOOL. For all his bombast and hyperbole about being independent and an outsider, he is a moron that can be easily manipulated. He literally takes his policy advice from the talking heads at Faux News. All they need do is stroke his ego and feed his rampant narcissism and he will do or say anything they want. He is the ultimate puppet. He IS the Manchurian candidate we have all feared. He's being TOLD who to nominate for SCOUTS as well as the hundreds of lower court seats the Senate is currently jam packing with alt-right uber-conservatives. Hundred of millions if not billions of dollars in dark money is feeding the frenzy. It is no coincidence that multiple states have suddenly introduced or passed the most extremist anti-abortion bills imaginable. This is "religion" only in name. It is a power play by the alt-right extremists. It is organized and well financed and they are not stupid. They have learned the power of media, especially the social media,where they have almost unlimited power to spread lies and disinformation. When those media platforms push back they get attacked as being un-American and unpatriotic and trying to silence "conservative values". The religious leaders are telling their kool-aid drinkers what to think and how to vote. They have literally sold their immortal souls to the devil of political expediency.

These people are a cancer. We need to root out the financiers of this abomination, this assault on America, shed light on their activities and expose them for lying hypocrites they truly are. Of course there is a segment of the population that will never believe they have anything but altruistic intentions. Even as they are being lead away in chains for what ever "sin" the new theocratic power elite decides to punish them for.

I truly fear for this nation. Some days we look like France, just before their revolution. Other days we look like Germany, just before the rise of Hitler and the Nazis.
 
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"The overwhelming support for Trump heralds the religious right coming full circle to embrace its roots in racism,” says Randall Balmer, a historian of American religion at Dartmouth College. “The breakthrough of the 2016 election lies in the fact that the religious right, in its support for a thrice-married, self-confessed sexual predator, finally dispensed with the fiction that it was concerned about abortion or ‘family values.’ ”

"The church of Jesus Christ ought to be the last people to fall for hucksters and demagogues,” Russell Moore wrote in Onward: Engaging the Culture Without Losing the Gospel.

"The Bible calls on Christians to bear one another’s burdens. White American Christians who respond to cultural tumult with nostalgia fail to do this. They are blinding themselves to the injustices faced by their black and brown brothers and sisters in the supposedly idyllic Mayberry of white Christian America.

"This has gospel implications not only for minorities and immigrants but for the so-called silent majority. A vast majority of Christians, on earth and in heaven, are not white and have never spoken English. A white American Christian who disregards nativist language is in for a shock:

The man on the throne in heaven is a dark-skinned, Aramaic-speaking “foreigner" who is probably not all that impressed with chants of 'Make America Great Again.'"

How Donald Trump Hijacked the Religious Right
~Amazing Disgrace ~~ The New Republic

Worth noting is that when speaking of Evangelicals there needs to be the caveat: White Evangelicals. Black Evangelicals do not support Trump. Nor do the majority of white Christians; tho 81% White Evangelicals did vote for Trump.