'Collapse of a city that's lost control'

Nov 2010
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San Diego...ish
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Pictures from downtown LA capture the problem it faces with trash as it tries and rodents | Daily Mail Online

A decision to not cap the total amount of property that homeless people can keep on Skid Row was announced last Wednesday and it sparked fury among some officials who say it will 'only perpetuate the public health crisis that already exists' there.
That, coupled with the news a Los Angeles police detective has been diagnosed with typhoid fever, has sparked concern among LA's residents.
The city has now said it will dispose of sofas, refrigerators and other large items in the 50-block area of downtown.
But councilmen Joe Buscaino slammed the decision, saying: 'The settlement will only perpetuate the public health crisis that already exists in Skid Row and will set a precedent for the rest of the city that will normalize encampments.
Absolutely inexcusable. With the amount of taxes that this state confiscates from its citizens, this is simply inexcusable. How does a city that was once a great place to go to turn into a third world shithole?
 
Jan 2014
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California
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Pictures from downtown LA capture the problem it faces with trash as it tries and rodents | Daily Mail Online



Absolutely inexcusable. With the amount of taxes that this state confiscates from its citizens, this is simply inexcusable. How does a city that was once a great place to go to turn into a third world shithole?
Mr. Over,

You can change the name for LA to San Francisco, Sacramento, Portland, or Seattle. If it weren't for the landmarks, it would look exactly like where I live, Oakland.
 
Sep 2013
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On a hill
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Pictures from downtown LA capture the problem it faces with trash as it tries and rodents | Daily Mail Online

Absolutely inexcusable. With the amount of taxes that this state confiscates from its citizens, this is simply inexcusable. How does a city that was once a great place to go to turn into a third world shithole?
Rich people dont want to pay taxes. Grover Norquist had the state by the balls with his no new tax policy for years.

Dont like the result, perhaps you should rethink austerity.
 
May 2013
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The population of LA county is 11 million. Can you show me a city even 1/50th of that size that doesn't have a homeless problem? Of course not. Good clickbait though, as expected from Daily Mail ;)

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May 2013
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Rich people dont want to pay taxes. Grover Norquist had the state by the balls with his no new tax policy for years.

Dont like the result, perhaps you should rethink austerity.
I was still living in SoCal when Prop 13 passed. My understanding is that it remains a problem.

Proposition 13 (officially named the People's Initiative to Limit Property Taxation) was an amendment of the Constitution of California enacted during 1978, by means of the initiative process. The initiative was approved by California voters on June 6, 1978. It was declared constitutional by the United States Supreme Court in the case of Nordlinger v. Hahn, 505 U.S. 1 (1992). Proposition 13 is embodied in Article XIII A of the Constitution of the State of California.[1]

The most significant portion of the act is the first paragraph, which limited the tax rate for real estate:
The proposition decreased property taxes by assessing values at their 1976 value and restricted annual increases of assessed value of real property to an inflation factor, not to exceed 2 percent per year. It also prohibited reassessment of a new base year value except in cases of (a) change in ownership, or (b) completion of new construction. These rules apply equally to all real estate, residential and commercial—whether owned by individuals or corporations.

The other significant portion of the initiative is that it requires a two-thirds majority in both legislative houses for future increases of any state tax rates or amounts of revenue collected, including income tax rates. It also requires a two-thirds vote majority in local elections for local governments wishing to increase special taxes. (A "special tax" is a tax devoted specifically to a purpose: eg. homelessness or road repair; money that does not go into a general fund.)

Proposition 13 received an enormous amount of publicity, not only in California, but throughout the United States.[2] Passage of the initiative presaged a "taxpayer revolt" throughout the country that is sometimes thought to have contributed to the election of Ronald Reagan to the presidency during 1980. However, of 30 anti-tax ballot measures that year, only 13 measures passed.[3]

A large contributor to Proposition 13 was the sentiment that older Californians should not be priced out of their homes through high taxes.[4] The proposition has been called the "third rail" (meaning "untouchable subject") of California politics, and it is not popular politically for lawmakers to attempt to change it.[5]
 
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On a hill
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I was still living in SoCal when Prop 13 passed. My understanding is that it remains a problem.

Proposition 13 (officially named the People's Initiative to Limit Property Taxation) was an amendment of the Constitution of California enacted during 1978, by means of the initiative process. The initiative was approved by California voters on June 6, 1978. It was declared constitutional by the United States Supreme Court in the case of Nordlinger v. Hahn, 505 U.S. 1 (1992). Proposition 13 is embodied in Article XIII A of the Constitution of the State of California.[1]

The most significant portion of the act is the first paragraph, which limited the tax rate for real estate:
The proposition decreased property taxes by assessing values at their 1976 value and restricted annual increases of assessed value of real property to an inflation factor, not to exceed 2 percent per year. It also prohibited reassessment of a new base year value except in cases of (a) change in ownership, or (b) completion of new construction. These rules apply equally to all real estate, residential and commercial—whether owned by individuals or corporations.

The other significant portion of the initiative is that it requires a two-thirds majority in both legislative houses for future increases of any state tax rates or amounts of revenue collected, including income tax rates. It also requires a two-thirds vote majority in local elections for local governments wishing to increase special taxes. (A "special tax" is a tax devoted specifically to a purpose: eg. homelessness or road repair; money that does not go into a general fund.)

Proposition 13 received an enormous amount of publicity, not only in California, but throughout the United States.[2] Passage of the initiative presaged a "taxpayer revolt" throughout the country that is sometimes thought to have contributed to the election of Ronald Reagan to the presidency during 1980. However, of 30 anti-tax ballot measures that year, only 13 measures passed.[3]

A large contributor to Proposition 13 was the sentiment that older Californians should not be priced out of their homes through high taxes.[4] The proposition has been called the "third rail" (meaning "untouchable subject") of California politics, and it is not popular politically for lawmakers to attempt to change it.[5]
Its absurdly true.

I was paying the same tax on property in silicon valley that I am paying on a house worth only 10% of that property.
 
Sep 2017
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Massachusetts
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Pictures from downtown LA capture the problem it faces with trash as it tries and rodents | Daily Mail Online



Absolutely inexcusable. With the amount of taxes that this state confiscates from its citizens, this is simply inexcusable. How does a city that was once a great place to go to turn into a third world shithole?
It's funny how often right-wingers use foreign propaganda to shit on America, don't you think? When it's not sewer-dwelling British tabloids like the Daily Mail, it's taking their marching orders from Putin by way of RT.
 

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