Collapse of the Republican party

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I never made much working for other people. Only after I started my own business, I did much better


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Good for you, but what the fuck does that have to do with most Middle Class families?

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Democrats tried to prove he was unfit and failed with no corroboration


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Fuck the Democrats. They thought Bill Clinton was fit. I'm saying Donald J. Trump is a giant lying, piece of shit douchebag who is unfit to be President because he's mentally unhinged.

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Fuck the Democrats. They thought Bill Clinton was fit. I'm saying Donald J. Trump is a giant lying, piece of shit douchebag who is unfit to be President because he's mentally unhinged.

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this is why we vote as citizens. If we relied on a few people telling us they don’t like a candidate it would never work. sorry you feel that way, but its hard for people that have great jobs in a great economy to hate Trump for improving it.


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The only reason Democrats want to impeach Trump is because he’s to strong to defeat in an election. They have tried everything to get him impeached and it makes him stronger. The Democrat base is divided, some moderates, some Socialist. They have to be United to win. To many crazy’s in there.


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Actually, that isn't true. And although I lean more to the right of center, It's easy to see the damage trump is doing to this country. He is causing division and hatred towards his opposition. He at no point has tried to be the American president, but president only for his loyal supporters. You can not effectively lead a nation like that.
 

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Actually, that isn't true. And although I lean more to the right of center, It's easy to see the damage trump is doing to this country. He is causing division and hatred towards his opposition. He at no point has tried to be the American president, but president only for his loyal supporters. You can not effectively lead a nation like that.
And the MEDIA crapping all over him from day one has NOTHING to do with it?
 
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Actually, that isn't true. And although I lean more to the right of center, It's easy to see the damage trump is doing to this country. He is causing division and hatred towards his opposition. He at no point has tried to be the American president, but president only for his loyal supporters. You can not effectively lead a nation like that.
Actually the Liberals are causing the division and Trump is just standing up for himself. Every time they try to take him down he refutes them. Even Mueller couldn’t take him down, because there was nothing there. The House won’t take him down because there is nothing substantial to take him down for. Liberals are just angry Trump is in power and they aren’t so they throw temper tantrums all day long. The more Liberals do that the stronger Trump gets.


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Actually the Liberals are causing the division and Trump is just standing up for himself. Every time they try to take him down he refutes them. Even Mueller couldn’t take him down, because there was nothing there. The House won’t take him down because there is nothing substantial to take him down for. Liberals are just angry Trump is in power and they aren’t so they throw temper tantrums all day long. The more Liberals do that the stronger Trump gets.


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lol...you have it backwards. Trump brings it on himself. But being as you are a die hard trump loyalist, I don't expect you to see the reality of things.
 
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"....the recognition of the traditional Republican party on Trump..".....emphasis on the word traditional.... Very telling statement , and correct.....but lets add the Traditional Democrat party into this demise . You should've made it clear in your opening statement...that you meant...The Elite Republicans and their counter part...the Elite Democrats... I am thinking you mean "The Swamp" right? If it were not for "We The People" ....putting Trump into the presidency.....We the People would've never seen how far and deep the swamp really is. Gingrich, and the boys..dragged Bill Clinton kicking and screaming to sign the new Welfare bill....and the new Budget bill....resulting in the balancing of the budget. Of course Slick Willie took the credit. This is when Democrats started to heat up the rhetoric on class envy...and identity politics because they could see clearly that Conservative Ideas Work! and it became very difficult if not impossible to challenge Republicans on ideas.....instead they set a course that would eventually bring The Tradional Democrat Party down a path of fierce race baiting...and a complete take over by Socialists. Lindsey Graham actually believed early on all this garbage about Russians and collusion....He saw his political career slip from him when it dawned on him.....That this whole Russian affair is a Fraud and just a desperate attempt by Hillary to bring down a challenger...Donald Trump! ...so like a bubble Graham floated up from the mirky depths of the swamp...kicking , clawing for dear life much like Bill Clinton did when refusing to sign the Welfare bill three times.......Graham is now basking in the Truth regardless of how much it burns.
This post completely ignores the strong influence that Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin had on Bill Clinton, and the policies that he pursued. It was Rubin who convinced Bill Clinton that focusing on deficit reduction was the right policy. They even named the set of economic policies Rubinomics.

In case you want to learn more: Rubinomics - Wikipedia
 
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Depends on the conservative, now doesn't it. When I was a Republican we had Ike, Goldwater, Nixon and Jerry Ford, all good men(even Nixon had some good ideas and policies), now the GOP has stooges like Trump and his deplorables. I could vote for Kasich, maybe Rubio or even Weld, all sane Republicans, as for the rest of you, hell no I don't want you in power. Your idea of moderate is Attila the Hun.
If the Republicans had run on a Kasich/Rubio ticket in 2016, like I recommended they do, I would have been tempted to vote for them.