Collapse of the Republican party

Dec 2018
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#22
Then perhaps you need to be involved in the candidate choosing process.
I'm not a Democrat, so I can't choose the Democratic candidate. I'm not a Republican so I can't choose the Republican candidate. What do you propose?
 

boontito

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Let's not forget that Americans were given a choice of Trump or Hillary, not a choice of thousands of the most qualified.
Well... The GOP had 17 choices. Trump wasn't an accident or the lesser of two evils. He was first proactively chosen as who the Republican Party wanted to represent both them and what they stand for.
 
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The left have been predicting the demise of the Republican Party for many years. Yet, here they are, in control of the Senate and the White House.

No one knows at this time who the Democrat nominee will be, but based on who has entered the race thus far, and who is likely to enter the race in the future, we will be faced with a leftist who will be too extreme for most Americans.

Americans, despite with many disagreements with Trump, and his tweets, are aware that things are better for them overall, than when Obama was in office. The press has a love affair with Obama, and he has many boot-lickers, but Obama didn't do the American people a lot of good.
Many who had jobs had to work in 2 or 3 of them to make ends meet. Welfare and food stamps were plentiful.

When Trump won the election, to the surprise of millions, the left went on a hissy fit and have had one hissy fit after another for two years. It's as if their whole world had collasped. They imagined a police state. They thought Trump was going to round up gays and Muslims and treat them like Hitler treated the Jews. Lots of seedy ideas, but none has come true.

And, when it was found that most of Trump's supporters weren't going around attacking minorities, the left has resorted to making things up. Smollett is the latest example.

So, is the GOP collasping? No. Not even close.
 
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Well... The GOP had 17 choices. Trump wasn't an accident or the lesser of two evils. He was first proactively chosen as who the Republican Party wanted to represent both them and what they stand for.
It wasn't Party leaders who chose Trump, but it was the majority of the Republicans base, who were tired of business as usual. Trump appeals to blue collar workers, middle America, and all those Americans, even Democrats, who wanted to see the country go in a more conservative direction.
 

Macduff

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It wasn't Party leaders who chose Trump, but it was the majority of the Republicans base, who were tired of business as usual. Trump appeals to blue collar workers, middle America, and all those Americans, even Democrats, who wanted to see the country go in a more conservative direction.
That decision was helped along by a media that gave Trump an overwhelming about of unearned coverage. It wasn't even close. To the point where people didn't even learn the names of other candidates.
There was an agenda. The media loved it when Trump was burning down the GOP in the primaries. Back then, everyone thought he'd be the weakest candidate against Clinton. Joke was on them.
 

boontito

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It wasn't Party leaders who chose Trump, but it was the majority of the Republicans base, who were tired of business as usual. Trump appeals to blue collar workers, middle America, and all those Americans, even Democrats, who wanted to see the country go in a more conservative direction.
Yes. The GOP chose him. It was a GOP primary. Party leaders have little to do with it. The GOP is made up of GOP voters just as the Democratic Party is made up of Democratic voters.
 
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boontito

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The left have been predicting the demise of the Republican Party for many years.
Yep. Just as the right has predicted the demise of the Democratic Party. Neither party is going anywhere. While it's true that party make up and party platforms have changed and will continue to change over time, neither party is close to going away.
 
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Man, the naked ape, has survived because of his cooperative, collective nature.
The Naked Ape was the title of an excellent book by the zoologist Desmond Morris that came out in 1967. He was looking at the human species from the perspective of a zoologist. Many of our more backward American communities tried to ban the book. Darwinism, you know.

You are quite right about the importance of cooperation in the success of the human species. The paradox of humanity is that we are, at once, BOTH the most competitive AND the most cooperative of all animals. And our own species, Homo sapiens, was the super-cooperator, and this was probably why we succeeded in replacing our many rival hominid species that existed in this world as recently as 40,000 years ago: the Neanderthals, the Denisovans, the hobbits of Flores Island, and some other mystery species that are only now coming to light through genetic analysis. There was a very interesting article about this in Scientific American maybe a year or two ago that I could dig up, if interested....

The Naked Ape - Wikipedia
 
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