Democrats answer to Trump in the Midwest, old, white and boring

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It just might work..I like the term "meat and potatoes democrat" lol.

Democrats are opting for a conventional cast of technocrats and long-time public officials in the party's first response to Donald Trump’s 2016 victories — a rebuttal of sorts to the party's lunge leftward in the run-up to 2020.

In Minnesota and Wisconsin on Tuesday, Democrats pinned their prospects on Tim Walz, a six-term congressman from Minnesota, and Tony Evers, Wisconsin’s 66-year-old state education superintendent in those states' gubernatorial contests.

Two years after a bombastic Trump swept through the upper Midwest, Democrats are arming themselves with general election candidates widely considered palatable to a broader electorate than the party’s progressive base. In the run-up to the 2020 presidential election, their victories serve as a reminder of the weight that establishment credentials still carry in the Midwest.

I think what you will learn through the course of the general [election] is whether or not there’s going to be a real strategic push for someone who is more of ... a fit for those Midwestern voters, or if the [2020 presidential] primary is just going to be completely dominated by a combination of identity politics and old ideological constructs,” Democratic strategist Tom Russell said. Russell, who ran former U.S. Sen. Russ Feingold’s unsuccessful U.S. Senate campaign in Wisconsin in 2016, said it remains unclear whether 2020 will feature any “down to earth, meat and potatoes” Democrat.

“You don’t see a hankering for that right now,” he said. “But depending on how these candidates do, or how these candidates do en masse in the Midwest, I think you might see a push for someone along those lines.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/15/2018-midterms-democrats-midwest-777757
 
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It just might work..I like the term "meat and potatoes democrat" lol.

Democrats are opting for a conventional cast of technocrats and long-time public officials in the party's first response to Donald Trump’s 2016 victories — a rebuttal of sorts to the party's lunge leftward in the run-up to 2020.

In Minnesota and Wisconsin on Tuesday, Democrats pinned their prospects on Tim Walz, a six-term congressman from Minnesota, and Tony Evers, Wisconsin’s 66-year-old state education superintendent in those states' gubernatorial contests.

Two years after a bombastic Trump swept through the upper Midwest, Democrats are arming themselves with general election candidates widely considered palatable to a broader electorate than the party’s progressive base. In the run-up to the 2020 presidential election, their victories serve as a reminder of the weight that establishment credentials still carry in the Midwest.

I think what you will learn through the course of the general [election] is whether or not there’s going to be a real strategic push for someone who is more of ... a fit for those Midwestern voters, or if the [2020 presidential] primary is just going to be completely dominated by a combination of identity politics and old ideological constructs,” Democratic strategist Tom Russell said. Russell, who ran former U.S. Sen. Russ Feingold’s unsuccessful U.S. Senate campaign in Wisconsin in 2016, said it remains unclear whether 2020 will feature any “down to earth, meat and potatoes” Democrat.

“You don’t see a hankering for that right now,” he said. “But depending on how these candidates do, or how these candidates do en masse in the Midwest, I think you might see a push for someone along those lines.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/15/2018-midterms-democrats-midwest-777757
Speaking of Democrats as one homogeneous entity is ridiculous. We are old and white and Hispanic and socialist. We are more than one thing.

The Democrats are like public education...anybody can come.

Thr Republicans are like private school. Adhere to the strict set of rules or you're out.
 
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Speaking of Democrats as one homogeneous entity is ridiculous. We are old and white and Hispanic and socialist. We are more than one thing.

The Democrats are like public education...anybody can come.

Thr Republicans are like private school. Adhere to the strict set of rules or you're out.
That might be true on the coasts, but in the rust belt and in most of the midwest that isnt working. To win back these Trump supporters, they need to be just like them. It could work.
 

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Yeah the theory is pretty sound, the Democrats are treading water with faces (and races) Midwest voters are comfortable with.

But should they fail to produce tangible results this year, the upheaval will be dramatic indeed.
 
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Yeah the theory is pretty sound, the Democrats are treading water with faces (and races) Midwest voters are comfortable with.

But should they fail to produce tangible results this year, the upheaval will be dramatic indeed.
Agree. I think if the dems fail to win with these nominees they are indeed in massive trouble and Sanders and Ocasio Cortez will have been right suggesting the party should move left to attract new voters. But if they win, I do think there will be a push more towards the center for democrats. All these new center left and blue dog dems potentially winning will dramatically change the party. It has the potential of having long term deep issues as they need the younger voters and this wont do it. However, thats down the road and for now, I think with Trump in office, any dem that can win will be a victory and celebrated. Any other issues will be put on the back burner.
 
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Walker is behind in the polls right now, and has been warning people nationwide of the danger of a blue wave throughout the Midwest.
From what I understand though thats in large part to millennials surging in voter registration and planning to vote. How long will they be loyal with these center left candidates? I heard a dem nominee from WI laughing off Ocasio Cortez and implying "she got her 5 minutes of fame already." Its kind of like Obama redux where the millennials surged and then dropped off in midterms.
 

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From what I understand though thats in large part to millennials surging in voter registration and planning to vote. How long will they be loyal with these center left candidates? I heard a dem nominee from WI laughing off Ocasio Cortez and implying "she got her 5 minutes of fame already." Its kind of like Obama redux where the millennials surged and then dropped off in midterms.
We'll see. I remain convinced that so long as Trump is in the White House, the Democrats' persistent turnout problems are a thing of the past.

It's anyone's guess whether longterm resentment of the GOP will evolve from Trump's legacy. I think it largely depends on how the GOP chooses to regard Trump after he is gone.

SOME millennials will be activated for good. They've grown up during a recession that still lined upper class pockets, they can't pay their bills and they're pissed off.

The question is, does this apply to MOST of them?
 
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We'll see. I remain convinced that so long as Trump is in the White House, the Democrats' persistent turnout problems are a thing of the past.

It's anyone's guess whether longterm resentment of the GOP will evolve from Trump's legacy. I think it largely depends on how the GOP chooses to regard Trump after he is gone.
Oh I agree totally. Dems will turn out due to Trump. Thats a given. Long term is the unknown. We heard this same thing after Obama won in 2008 that all these new voters he brought to the party would secure dems will hold the House, Senate and WH for decades. It didnt happen. I think its quite possible the GOP comes back alive with some of their newer more socially liberal governors in the future. But then again, who knows? I cant see Trumpism having any lasting effect once Trump is gone.