Do you still believe that U.S. Presidents are not above the law and that the 3 branches are equal?

Do you still believe that U.S Presidents are not above the law and the 3 branches if gov are equal?

  • No the president is not above the law and the three branches remain equal in power.

    Votes: 4 23.5%
  • Yes, the above but I sure am wondering with this one.

    Votes: 3 17.6%
  • Yes, the've always had a different standard vs. the rest of us and precedence shows that.

    Votes: 6 35.3%
  • We are in new territory; a possible constitutional crisis.

    Votes: 10 58.8%

  • Total voters
    17
Jun 2014
46,079
45,653
United States
#2
Do you still believe that U.S. Presidents are not about the law and that the three branches of government are equal?

I never believed that. I've always personally believed that a US President should not be above the law, but that's not what I've observed within my lifetime.

As for equality between the three branches, Congress has long been ceding their power to the presidency because individuals within Congress feared making decisions that could harm their chances of being reelected.
 
Jan 2016
50,039
45,998
Colorado
#3
I think we are CLEARLY in a constitutional crisis, with an Attorney General who seems to think his JOB is to defend the President at all costs, and with a report that has just come out that obviously lays out impeachable offenses that the President has committed, and yet we know that we have a Senate that is extremely unlikely to vote to convict the President, even were the House to vote to impeach him.
 
Mar 2012
54,707
36,335
New Hampshire
#4
I think we are CLEARLY in a constitutional crisis, with an Attorney General who seems to think his JOB is to defend the President at all costs, and with a report that has just come out that obviously lays out impeachable offenses that the President has committed, and yet we know that we have a Senate that is extremely unlikely to vote to convict the President, even were the House to vote to impeach him.
Agree except I think most AGs have indeed defended their president. They all are in the same party and normally are pretty good friends. So in that regard they probably think of themselves as the defender of the President. I can think back and recall Edwin Meese had been Reagans close friends for decades. I think he would have defended him to the death. Eric Holder referred to himself as Pres Obamas wingman.
 

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Former Staff
Nov 2009
32,000
19,134
SoCal
#5
I don't remember the Congress being kicked around so easily by any president before Trump. I think this is new. As things are right now, Trump is above the law and the other two branches, along with all other agencies of this nation, have been subjugated to some extent.
 
Mar 2010
20,175
12,961
Indiana
#6
Agree except I think most AGs have indeed defended their president. They all are in the same party and normally are pretty good friends. So in that regard they probably think of themselves as the defender of the President. I can think back and recall Edwin Meese had been Reagans close friends for decades. I think he would have defended him to the death. Eric Holder referred to himself as Pres Obamas wingman.
JFK's brother was his AG. Doesn't get any more loyal than that. OTOH Kennedy was a hell of a lot smarter than Trump and wouldn't need his brother to cover for him.
 
Sep 2012
14,155
17,971
SoCal
#7
I think we are CLEARLY in a constitutional crisis, with an Attorney General who seems to think his JOB is to defend the President at all costs, and with a report that has just come out that obviously lays out impeachable offenses that the President has committed, and yet we know that we have a Senate that is extremely unlikely to vote to convict the President, even were the House to vote to impeach him.
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Jan 2016
50,039
45,998
Colorado
#8
Agree except I think most AGs have indeed defended their president. They all are in the same party and normally are pretty good friends. So in that regard they probably think of themselves as the defender of the President. I can think back and recall Edwin Meese had been Reagans close friends for decades. I think he would have defended him to the death. Eric Holder referred to himself as Pres Obamas wingman.
Granted, there's some truth in what you are saying. But the Attorney General is SUPPOSED to be the chief law enforcement officer of the United States, and NOT the personal attorney of the President. The President can have his own personal attorney, and they can even have an office in the White House. That's fine. They should just NOT be the Attorney General. Ed Meese was a HORRIBLE AG, by the way. He had his own personal theory of 'justice', you know. He actually said that if you got arrested, you MUST be guilty, or the police would not have arrested you in the first place. Boy, did his tune ever change when he himself was arrested for influence peddling. And then there was his ridiculous Pornography Commission....And yes, Eric Holder was far too close of a personal friend of Barack Obama for my taste. I didn't like Janet Reno as AG, either, for that matter. Not too many AGs that I HAVE liked, come to think of it, LOL!
 
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Sep 2013
43,142
34,211
On a hill
#9
I don't remember the Congress being kicked around so easily by any president before Trump. I think this is new. As things are right now, Trump is above the law and the other two branches, along with all other agencies of this nation, have been subjugated to some extent.
I dont think any president has dared to kick congress the way trump has. Trump acts like he's above the law, and his congressional toadies just roll over.

They need to grow a spine.