EU votes for disciplinary action against Hungary

Mar 2012
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The European Parliament has voted to pursue unprecedented disciplinary action against Hungary over alleged breaches of the EU's core values.

Prime Minister Viktor Orban's government has been accused of attacks on the media, minorities, and the rule of law - charges which he denies. MEPs backed the vote by 448 to 197, giving it the two-thirds required for proceedings to go ahead. If also approved by national leaders, Hungary could face disciplinary action. Wednesday's vote is the first time the European Parliament has voted to take such action against a member state under EU rules. Measures could include suspension of the country's voting rights in Europe or other sanctions.

Mr Orban personally spoke to the parliament on Tuesday in defence of his country, labelling the threat of censure as a form of "blackmail" and an insult to Hungary. Since coming to power, Mr Orban's government has taken a hardline stance against immigration. It introduced a law which made it a criminal offence for lawyers and activists to aid asylum seekers, under the banner of "facilitating illegal immigration"

Suspension of Hungary's voting rights is the most serious possible consequence - but is considered unlikely, as Poland's nationalist government may support Hungary.

EU votes for action against Hungary
 
Nov 2007
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I find this whole thing a bit concerning. The EU was supposed to be about more than free trade; it's meant to come attached with conditions based on the principles of liberal democracy. If you want to join the club you need to play by those rules. Those opposed to Turkey's membership have been using these conditions to delay Turkey's accession for the last forty years.

And yet now we not only have members who open reject the principles of liberal democracy, but we cannot sanction them because they have allies and we thus lack unanimity. They have allies even in the governments of founding member states (Italy), not just in the former communist members.

I'm finding myself much less optimistic about the future of Europe than I was 15 years ago. Maybe I'm just getting old and bitter before my time.
 
Mar 2012
48,289
31,653
New Hampshire
#3
I find this whole thing a bit concerning. The EU was supposed to be about more than free trade; it's meant to come attached with conditions based on the principles of liberal democracy. If you want to join the club you need to play by those rules. Those opposed to Turkey's membership have been using these conditions to delay Turkey's accession for the last forty years.

And yet now we not only have members who open reject the principles of liberal democracy, but we cannot sanction them because they have allies and we thus lack unanimity. They have allies even in the governments of founding member states (Italy), not just in the former communist members.

I'm finding myself much less optimistic about the future of Europe than I was 15 years ago. Maybe I'm just getting old and bitter before my time.
Yea it appears some are "ganging up" with each other and making success more difficult. I think many originally felt how easy the EU might be but now there seems to be a lot of differing opinions.
 
Oct 2014
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I find this whole thing a bit concerning. The EU was supposed to be about more than free trade; it's meant to come attached with conditions based on the principles of liberal democracy. If you want to join the club you need to play by those rules. Those opposed to Turkey's membership have been using these conditions to delay Turkey's accession for the last forty years.

And yet now we not only have members who open reject the principles of liberal democracy, but we cannot sanction them because they have allies and we thus lack unanimity. They have allies even in the governments of founding member states (Italy), not just in the former communist members.

I'm finding myself much less optimistic about the future of Europe than I was 15 years ago. Maybe I'm just getting old and bitter before my time.
It was designed like a roach motel. Once in there's not supposed to be escape.
 
Jul 2014
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Border Fence
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The European Parliament has voted to pursue unprecedented disciplinary action against Hungary over alleged breaches of the EU's core values.

Prime Minister Viktor Orban's government has been accused of attacks on the media, minorities, and the rule of law - charges which he denies. MEPs backed the vote by 448 to 197, giving it the two-thirds required for proceedings to go ahead. If also approved by national leaders, Hungary could face disciplinary action. Wednesday's vote is the first time the European Parliament has voted to take such action against a member state under EU rules. Measures could include suspension of the country's voting rights in Europe or other sanctions.

Mr Orban personally spoke to the parliament on Tuesday in defence of his country, labelling the threat of censure as a form of "blackmail" and an insult to Hungary. Since coming to power, Mr Orban's government has taken a hardline stance against immigration. It introduced a law which made it a criminal offence for lawyers and activists to aid asylum seekers, under the banner of "facilitating illegal immigration"

Suspension of Hungary's voting rights is the most serious possible consequence - but is considered unlikely, as Poland's nationalist government may support Hungary.

EU votes for action against Hunagary
if there are accusations, then there should be hearings or trials.

A simple vote does not suffice. A vote is not a trial
 
May 2016
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Turkey in the Eurounion? Heck kick 'em out of NATO before they drag us into more stupidity in the middle east.They're Germany's buddy since the two world wars anyway.
 
Nov 2015
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Does that seem to be a growing sentiment over there? Hear more about it now that I used to.
You will find that those who supported Bexit are conservative and those who wanted to remain are more Labour (Socialist). Hungary have been taking a strong line against the immigrants and the so called asylum seekers for a while so they're in trouble with the dictatorship of the EU. Poland is another one that dislikes the EU.

I'm honestly surprised that no other member state has had an Exit referendum. I can only conclude that they want to see how the UK does on it's own, which is flourish of course, then more referendums might appear.