- Jun 2013
I said grand churches 'mirror' god's grandeur. Human artistic expression was never meant to equal or surpass god's grandeur. It does, however, try to emulate that grandeur as befits mankind's role as co-author of creation.
I do not begrudge anyone their opinions. I am merely speaking in behalf of catholicism from what I understand of it. People express faith very differently. As long as this is an honest expression, then it's all good.
In fact, I would go further and say that the belief in some transcendent and immutable good is a form of faith. After all, what is god if not a good that is personified in our minds?
What can I say? A church, like the state, is a form of political association hence the practical necessities in perpetuating the association is parallel, if not the same. Neither is perfect. But they are necessary, if we imagine human existence, as we know it, to continue.
Based on your responses, I do not believe you actually comprehended much, if not most of what I said, in many ways similar to the point I was trying to make about observing people that attend church on a regular basis, read the bible and admonish their children for anything that would make them miss going to church, then do the complete opposite of the general theme of Christ's teachings. It is as if they were told that HAD TO go to church, they HAD TO believe in Christ/God.....but they were never taught to actually hear and listen to the sermons, ponder the meaning of the Bible or why some believe or do not believe in Christ, much less god(s) of any sort and if those people might still be a part of God's creation. They never seemed to get the meaning of confession aside from some thought that it was meant as a weekly reset of their "innocence" so they could then return to pursuing the same sins they went to confession to ask forgiveness for. In other words, what I was witnessing seemed to in many ways be disconnected from the very lessons of or meaning of Christ and something that had become systematic and by rote and required or in many ways discouraged any pondering or questioning of faith OR the organized religion and its associates. All I could see was obedience to church dogma and rules, not actual comprehensive thought contemplation and absorption of Christ's teachings. I saw people there because they would be scorned if they were not, as a social event (nothing wrong with that, but seems that's all it was to many) and that other than following the churches rules, the actual lessons of Christ seemed somewhat immaterial and unimportant, at least as far as actually paying more attention to them, than church rules and regulations, was concerned.
These are all not only my observances, but some who were members of the Catholic church, who left for many of the reasons I have cited.
I begrudge no one any belief in anything, as long as their beliefs do not lead to harm to themselves or anyone else. That includes those who do not believe in god(s) or varieties of religion. It seems ironic for those of the Christian religion to judge who or who is not worthy of their god's graces, while at the same time, having faith that their god is the ONLY judge of such things and to recognize the story of Satan/Lucifer and the angel that fell from grace and why.
It is similar to those who seem to be or admit to be trying to force an Armageddon sort of event, somehow under the vain assumption God will judge them to come out on the better side. Wouldn't they be in for a surprise if God said, they assumed wrong, at least in part, because they assumed to know how God would judge them or how they have judged others, in God's stead?
The same with thinking about those people that interpret faith in God as God being everywhere, not just in cathedrals and gold gilded cities dedicated to what some humans think he represents.
If God is everywhere and faith is about how anyone perceives and believes in an entity they refer to as the creator of the universe, then what really IS the need for churches? People can gather together by choice (or choose not to) under God's sky, no less than they can in a man made structure. They can help the needy without an intermediary that pays themselves grand "management" or preaching sums...... No doubt, all humans must eat, including those of the cloth, but while so many have taken vows to devote themselves to Christ/God and live minimally to earthy ways and existence, others who also believe in Christ, live in virtual palaces, gilded in gold or as in some other Christian faiths, not associated with Catholicism, live in the lap of luxury, in some cases provided for, by the "faithful", but poor who are known statistically, to give more as a portion of their "wealth" than those who are very wealthy, perhaps setting a better example of the teachings of Christ than the greedy, gluttonous wealthy do.
Irony abounds when it comes to organized religions and especially Christianity. Missionaries have been a part of the history of Christianity for centuries, as a mean to get people to become Christians, yet the NUMEROUS denominations of Christianity, have spent centuries fighting about which is to dominate. This even continues within the framework of U.S. government as in which of the larger branches within Christianity will dominate the overall Christian faith and as such dominate the policies of American or any government.