Federal judge blocks CA law requiring Trumps tax returns

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A federal judge issued a temporary injunction against a California state law that requires presidential candidates to disclose their tax returns to appear on the primary ballot.

President Trump's lawyers had challenged the law, which was signed into law by California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D).

U.S. District Judge Morrison England, Jr., a George W. Bush appointee on the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of California, said there would be "irreparable harm without temporary relief" for Trump and other candidates if he did not make the rare temporary decision to block, The Los Angeles Times reported.

The decision will likely be appealed by state officials.

Federal judge blocks California law requiring Trump tax returns
 
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A federal judge issued a temporary injunction against a California state law that requires presidential candidates to disclose their tax returns to appear on the primary ballot.

President Trump's lawyers had challenged the law, which was signed into law by California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D).

U.S. District Judge Morrison England, Jr., a George W. Bush appointee on the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of California, said there would be "irreparable harm without temporary relief" for Trump and other candidates if he did not make the rare temporary decision to block, The Los Angeles Times reported.

The decision will likely be appealed by state officials.

Federal judge blocks California law requiring Trump tax returns
I think this law has serious constitutional flaws. Be very interested in how this case proceeds.

Thanks for posting this update!
 
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This law was unconstitutional from the get-go.

The supremacy clause automatically overrules any state law.
 

Ian Jeffrey

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I think this law has serious constitutional flaws.
I imagine the irreparable harm without temporary relief would only be because there is relatively little time before the primaries begin, in terms of how quickly a case moves through the federal court system. Hopefully this will all get resolved before the primaries begin.

@Madeline, what constitutional flaws do you see? The only thing I can think of is that the Constitution provides for specific and limited criteria to qualify for the presidency, and that release of tax returns is not one of them. Is that what you had in mind?
 
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I imagine the irreparable harm without temporary relief would only be because there is relatively little time before the primaries begin, in terms of how quickly a case moves through the federal court system. Hopefully this will all get resolved before the primaries begin.

@Madeline, what constitutional flaws do you see? The only thing I can think of is that the Constitution provides for specific and limited criteria to qualify for the presidency, and that release of tax returns is not one of them. Is that what you had in mind?
Yes. I don't think states have the power to set additional criteria for candidates for any federal office.
 
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Now why would Trump do such a stupid thing, file to stop CA from requiring tax returns?

All Trump would have to do was tell California that he's still under audit.

Hahahaha.
 
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A federal judge issued a temporary injunction against a California state law that requires presidential candidates to disclose their tax returns to appear on the primary ballot.

President Trump's lawyers had challenged the law, which was signed into law by California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D).

U.S. District Judge Morrison England, Jr., a George W. Bush appointee on the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of California, said there would be "irreparable harm without temporary relief" for Trump and other candidates if he did not make the rare temporary decision to block, The Los Angeles Times reported.

The decision will likely be appealed by state officials.

Federal judge blocks California law requiring Trump tax returns
Hopefully the injunction to the CA law will be upheld and the law removed. Horrible precedent.

A law created out of animosity toward a single individual is usually a bad idea.



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Hopefully the injunction to the CA law will be upheld and the law removed. Horrible precedent.

A law created out of animosity toward a single individual is usually a bad idea.
We need to keep Trump's tax returns in the national conversation. The fact of the matter is, he's pulling out ALL the stops to keep them from becoming public, and as time goes on and the pressure builds, the reasons to keep fighting winnow down.

The explanation, "Well, Trump's real fuckin dumb and he allows his pride to govern foolish decisionmaking, even when 'losing' would cost him little" is still alive, but less and less plausible every day against Trump's behavior in public on this subject. He's not just prideful, he's scared.

Yet this law is not the way to get the returns. The precedent indeed is bad: If California can make a candidate do something like this to get on their ballot, it opens the door wide for other states to assign ever-harder criteria onto their ballots. Suddenly we're left without free and fair elections.
 
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We need to keep Trump's tax returns in the national conversation. The fact of the matter is, he's pulling out ALL the stops to keep them from becoming public, and as time goes on and the pressure builds, the reasons to keep fighting winnow down.

The explanation, "Well, Trump's real fuckin dumb and he allows his pride to govern foolish decision making, even when 'losing' would cost him little" is still alive, but less and less plausible every day against Trump's behavior in public on this subject. He's not just prideful, he's scared.

Yet this law is not the way to get the returns. The precedent indeed is bad: If California can make a candidate do something like this to get on their ballot, it opens the door wide for other states to assign ever-harder criteria onto their ballots. Suddenly we're left without free and fair elections.

Am pretty confident the reason the Democrats want the public to see the Trump tax returns is simply to embarrass him. Exploit the information for political gain. Not complex. Not saying it isn't a smart plan. It's politically savvy. But it is what it is. Trump is a big boaster/talker and chances are good he is not as rich or successful as he claims. Political red meat for the Democrat opposition.

Trump's taxes have no doubt been audited extensively over the years by the Federal government . It's the job of the IRS to investigate and prosecute tax evasion/violations. The public is not entitled to see Trump's tax returns. Nor anyone else's for that matter. Using the statutory power of a State government to undermine the political opposition is absurd abuse of legal authority.



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Am pretty confident the reason the Democrats want the public to see the Trump tax returns is simply to embarrass him. Exploit the information for political gain. Not complex. Not saying it isn't a smart plan. It's politically savvy. But it is what it is. Trump is a big boaster/talker and chances are good he is not as rich or successful as he claims. Political red meat for the Democrat opposition.

Trump's taxes have no doubt been audited extensively over the years by the Federal government . It's the job of the IRS to investigate and prosecute tax evasion/violations. The public is not entitled to see Trump's tax returns. Nor anyone else's for that matter. Using the statutory power of a State government to undermine the political opposition is absurd abuse of legal authority.



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That's exactly what it is all about. Trump said he's worth 10 billion, forbes put it at 4, it's possible it's even less than that. The left want to embarrass Trump in a worthless lie.

There is no Russia connection there, Mueller's team have already been through his taxes and there's no fraud because the IRS is currently looking at them and haven't found anything.

Making a law for a political ploy is really bad.