Feeding the World

RNG

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Expected to hit the grocery stores in the 2021-2022 time range. Been meaning to submit a top post on this, maybe I'll get around to it this weekend. There is a HUGE battle brewing over how to label this synthetic meat. If ranchers had their way, it would be labeled Franken-meat, hah. The manufacturers would like to call it 'clean meat'.
Will the Republicans call it Alternative meat?
 
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Will the Republicans call it Alternative meat?
I imagine Republicans will be on the side of the ranchers. They will likely adopt a neo-Luddite position on synthetic meat. I think by 2025 we will have synthetic meat that is not only better-tasting and healthier than the meat we have today, but probably cheaper as well, due to the miracles of mass production.
 
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A story on the CBC site grabbed my attention and brought to the fore how many people are on the earth and the further potential erosion of quality of life.



A hectare is the metric unit of measure for larger areas. 1 hectare = 100m x 100m ~= 2.5 acres.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/usda-guidelines-diet-agricultural-land-use-study-1.4781291
Their data is wrong.

Well its correct if we do things the way we are doing but we could do things differently and easily feed the world.

Its where GMO's and factories come in.
 

RNG

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Their data is wrong.

Well its correct if we do things the way we are doing but we could do things differently and easily feed the world.

Its where GMO's and factories come in.
And still follow the USDA recommended diet?
 
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And still follow the USDA recommended diet?
Yes.

We have the technology to do it, because we aren't doesn't mean we can't.

In fact, we would never need to fish in the oceans again if we didn't want to, if we spent the resources we could farm enough fish to feed the world.

In America alone, not to mention Russia, there are thousands of acres that could be farmed if we put in the effort.

Your study is basing it off current conditions, not what we are actually possible of.

Hell, we can grow wheat in water if we need to.
 
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Expected to hit the grocery stores in the 2021-2022 time range. Been meaning to submit a top post on this, maybe I'll get around to it this weekend. There is a HUGE battle brewing over how to label this synthetic meat. If ranchers had their way, it would be labeled Franken-meat, hah. The manufacturers would like to call it 'clean meat'.

One big obstacle that synthetic meat faces is the serum required to grow the cell cultures. Thus far, they are relying upon blood.
 
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Americans eat what they are told to think is healthy. The avocado is being pushed as a healthy food by commercial interests despite requiring a heavy demand for water to grow. It's healthy enough to eat, but the market is pushing it for the bucks, resulting in small farmers in Chile losing their farms as the short supply of water is used up on large avocado farms, to the Mexican drug cartels intimidating locals and deforesting local lands to plant avocados, a proven money maker. California already has a shortage of water and this is the wrong crop for the area, but it brings in the profits so it is pushed for consumers. There are other healthy foods more suitable for this climate but big agribusiness will exclude them from consideration to make profit at the expense of others.
 
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Yes.

We have the technology to do it, because we aren't doesn't mean we can't.

In fact, we would never need to fish in the oceans again if we didn't want to, if we spent the resources we could farm enough fish to feed the world.

In America alone, not to mention Russia, there are thousands of acres that could be farmed if we put in the effort.

Your study is basing it off current conditions, not what we are actually possible of.

Hell, we can grow wheat in water if we need to.
Hardier fish are needed to replace those already removed from the world's oceans. Species more resistant to bacteria and other diseases. Warmer water and lower salinities mean higher amounts of algae, lower oxygen, and slower moving migration routes for migratory species. If we can successfully implement fish moratoriums and somehow enforce them, we can return to cheaper alternatives to farm-raised fish.
 
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A story on the CBC site grabbed my attention and brought to the fore how many people are on the earth and the further potential erosion of quality of life.



A hectare is the metric unit of measure for larger areas. 1 hectare = 100m x 100m ~= 2.5 acres.

There isn't enough land to grow all the food we'd need for the world to follow the USDA-recommended diet | CBC News
The majority of the US corn crop goes to make ethanol today. If the silly blending requirements were eliminated we would have millions more acres of fertile land to grow food on.