Greenpeace Co-founder calls Ocasio-Cortez "Pompous Little Twit"

Rev. Hellh0und

Former Staff
Jul 2011
315 bowery/DMS
Are you deliberately missing the point for political reasons or do you not really understand the point here? Seriously, which is it?
In the first application, Trump cited "global warming and its effects," including rising sea levels and water erosion, as reasons for the wall, Politico reported, despite his statements calling global warming and climate change "a total hoax." Global warming was not listed as a reason in this application.

I don't get what you all are crying about. That's all. of course when applying for a permit you cite reasons that the issuing agency agrees with. not necessarily that you subscribe to.
Dec 2018
the Heart of America
I don't get what you all are crying about. That's all. of course when applying for a permit you cite reasons that the issuing agency agrees with. not necessarily that you subscribe to.
Translation: It was the first one, Bob.

Thank, Hound!
Jan 2007
Not quite... We, as a nation very obviously, address coal. And just as ovviously, trump decided he and his party preferred the profits in coal.

Seems other Countries are taking on the what would happen across the world if the radical plan were implemented.

Why is coal considered a fossil fuel?
because it takes millions of years to form, it forms from the remains of living things
Why is coal considered a fossil fuel

We e are 100% aware EVERY COUNTRY has to put in the effort. Our not addressing the problem, doesn't leave the ozone problem just hanging over the US

This is one big reason EU doesn't think much of us - since Trump (with good reason)


Though not the first to have considered banning petrol and diesel cars, Germany was the first to implement a ban. Back in October 2016, the country’s federal council (the Bundesrat) proposed and passed a resolution that calls for a total ban on internal combustion engines by 2030.


In February 2017, Norway decided to follow and outdo the German example. Not only is this Scandinavian country banning fossil fuel-based cars, they’ve set a target that’s five years earlier than Germany’s. By 2025, Norway will only sell cars that are 100 percent electric, doing away with petrol-based vehicles.


From European nations, we move to Asia, with India. The country has instituted a policy, similar to Norway’s, to allow only the sale of fully-electric cars by 2030. The effort is financed by the government. “We are going to introduce electric vehicles in a very big way. We are going to make electric vehicles self- sufficient like UJALA,” said Piyush Goyal, India’s Minister of Railways and Coal. “The idea is that by 2030, not a single petrol or diesel car should be sold in the country.”

The home of the historic Paris climate deal won’t be left behind, of course, as it’s set radical changes to the country’s climate goals into motion. Part of this is a ban on all petrol and diesel vehicles effective on 2040. It’s a step-by-step process, which includes having “a fleet of 2.4 million rechargeable electric and hybrid vehicles, as well as a 3% of NGV heavy duty vehicles” by 2023, according to France’s Ministry of Ecology, Sustainable Development and Energy.

The U.K.
If France wants it, then the U.K. wants it to. The British have introduced a ban on new diesel and petrol fuel cars by 2040, as part of a $4.06 billion initiative (£3 billion) that trickles down to local councils to improve the nation’s air quality. “Poor air quality is the biggest environmental risk to public health in the UK and this government is determined to take strong action in the shortest time possible,” a spokesperson previously told the BBC.

The Other Two
Worth adding here are two other nations that have expressed interest in curbing greenhouse emissions from cars — the Netherlands and China. The Dutch have been considering a petrol and diesel ban since April 2016, while China revealed similar plans back in September.
In case you’re double-checking if you missed the U.S. in this list, well…you didn’t. It’s still a dream. For now — or at least the next four years.

These 7 countries want to say goodbye to fossil fuel-based cars

It's rather embarrassing how the US say FU to the people at least trying.

OAC is trying - because it is the right thing to address.
No internal combustion engines or diesel. Good luck with mining, farming, shipping, trucking.

Electric cars often need an entire night to recharge at home, and they can "increase a house's power consumption by 50% or more," The New York Times reported in 2013. A fellow FORBES contributor notes, "Adding an electric car on the grid is equivalent in some cases to adding three houses."
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Jan 2007
Converting one form of energy to another is not efficient. We need all forms of energy to compliment one another. As for gasoline cars , improve efficiency and improve emissions. That is already happening. Try to imagine electric mine trucks in an iron ore or copper mine. We will need a lot of copper in an all electric world. A lot of wire, transformers, substations. They already make electric mine shovels but they have to be tied to the grid or a generator truck. Electric mine haul trucks. ...good luck with that. They make electric motor drive haul trucks but the diesel engine runs generators. Back to fossil fuel again.

Green energy will not save the planet.
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