Gun Violence is the symptom only.

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What I DON'T like about the gun debate, is to throw people under the bus and blame "certain people" for this problem. Part of the problem is a lack of civility. Part is illegal guns and a culture that glamorizes violence and revenge. Yet another is the drug trade. Quite a bit here needs to be addressed and we have to address it. We can't just dig in and refuse to work on the issue. We can't just blame inner-city liberals or minorities. We have to understand why this is happening and fix the problem.
 
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So, people are only lousy parents to boys? Because, in case you hadn’t noticed, this type of gun violence isn’t a problem for women.
There are differences between boys and girls.

Boys tend to cope with neglect and abuse by lashing outward. Girls tend towards internalizing that abuse.

So, the effects you see are different between them. Where boys are more likely to be outwardly violent, girls will do harmful things that are mainly harmful to themselves.
 
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What I DON'T like about the gun debate, is to throw people under the bus and blame "certain people" for this problem. Part of the problem is a lack of civility. Part is illegal guns and a culture that glamorizes violence and revenge. Yet another is the drug trade. Quite a bit here needs to be addressed and we have to address it. We can't just dig in and refuse to work on the issue. We can't just blame inner-city liberals or minorities. We have to understand why this is happening and fix the problem.
"Certain people" we should check the demographics of the areas that are most prone to gun violence... see if we can determine which "certain people" you are talking about?
 
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"Certain people" we should check the demographics of the areas that are most prone to gun violence... see if we can determine which "certain people" you are talking about?
You have to check? Republicans are scapegoating people in order to survive the onslaught of opposition and are now actively attempting to throw some people under the bus.

Present company excluded, of course. You would never do that.

A better idea aside from checking to see what kind of people shoot other people would be to work to eradicate excessive amounts of weapons to fall into the hands of 'the black market.'

Have any ideas? Enforcing existing laws hasn't worked with illegal drugs so maybe that isn't the answer.
 
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That is an excellent point rarely raised.
Guys tend to end all pissing contests with a "my dick is bigger than yours" mentality. This is a reason that it's not a good idea to carry a loaded weapon. All it takes for someone to pull it out and use it is a minor disagreement over traffic.

This is why I do not ascribe to the "symptom only" theory presented in the OP. Lot's of guys walking around who are wired this way. Some women, but not to the degree men are with the aid of our friend testosterone. Men are very logical creatures, but not when they are caught up in territorial disputes with other beta males.
 
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What I DON'T like about the gun debate, is to throw people under the bus and blame "certain people" for this problem. Part of the problem is a lack of civility. Part is illegal guns and a culture that glamorizes violence and revenge. Yet another is the drug trade. Quite a bit here needs to be addressed and we have to address it. We can't just dig in and refuse to work on the issue. We can't just blame inner-city liberals or minorities. We have to understand why this is happening and fix the problem.
Looking at this map, it doesnt appear that inner city liberals, or minorities are the problem.

 
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You have to check? Republicans are scapegoating people in order to survive the onslaught of opposition and are now actively attempting to throw some people under the bus.

Present company excluded, of course. You would never do that.

A better idea aside from checking to see what kind of people shoot other people would be to work to eradicate excessive amounts of weapons to fall into the hands of 'the black market.'

Have any ideas? Enforcing existing laws hasn't worked with illegal drugs so maybe that isn't the answer.




Looking at that, a gun ownership rate of less than 20% correlates strongly with the rate of mass shooters.... Seems your conclusion is opposite the data.