[GW:35/158] The thread to post your absolute proof of what the Bible says is true

kmiller1610

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1 Corinthians 13 English Standard Version (ESV)

If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing.

Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.

So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
 
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1 Corinthians 13 English Standard Version (ESV)

If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing.

Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.

So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
Very true. Pretty deep stuff.
 
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What evidence is allowed to prove the Bible is true? Do you accept eye witnesses or is this another one of those threads where you say no evidence is allowed because you say so?
 
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For those with faith, no proof is needed. For the faithless, no proof will suffice.
Believe what you want and I will do the same.

I feel no need to convince you. It matters not to me, it's your soul and empty life, devoid of purpose and meaning.
 

Blues63

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For those with faith, no proof is needed.
Obviously, for faith does not require evidence. If it did, it wouldn't be called 'faith'.

For the faithless, no proof will suffice.
Incorrect, it is simply that none has been forthcoming, and all one receives to such enquiries is supercilious tripe like your ad hominem.

Believe what you want and I will do the same.
Of course.

I feel no need to convince you. It matters not to me, it's your soul and empty life, devoid of purpose and meaning.
So you're merely here to insult. Got it. Why are most apologists I deal with so touchy and offensive? If belief in the faith has merit, then demonstrate it, but to insult in order to alleviate your own fears is just puerile, and yet, so common.
 
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Organized religion is a sham and a crutch for weak-minded people who need strength in numbers. It tells people to go out and stick their noses in other people's business. I live by the golden rule: Treat others as you'd want them to treat you. The religious right wants to tell people how to live. - Former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura


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Obviously, for faith does not require evidence. If it did, it wouldn't be called 'faith'.



Incorrect, it is simply that none has been forthcoming, and all one receives to such enquiries is supercilious tripe like your ad hominem.



Of course.



So you're merely here to insult. Got it. Why are most apologists I deal with so touchy and offensive? If belief in the faith has merit, then demonstrate it, but to insult in order to alleviate your own fears is just puerile, and yet, so common.
He’s right, you don’t want proof. Faith is not believing in something you know doesn’t exist. It’s knowing God exist and faith is trust in God.


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