Has anyone here ever heard one person advocate for socialism in the country

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Obamacare was a failure before Trump showed up. Anyone who pushed Obamacare is disqualified from telling us how health care should be handled.
ya you bet that why the majority of this country love it now.Just like everyone said and just like all programs like it ,it takes time for people to find value in every program. Any way like everything else you have no clue about Obama care either. Obviously. If you weren't a moderator , I'd dump you in a second for your nonsense and your total waste of bandwidth with your lies and distortions. People like you have to go, all patriots in this country know that the lies that your haters operate with have to go and any party that is based on hatred like you and your party, needs to go and patriots will do just that.
 
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Afghanistan was a relatively minor war until Obama's failed surge when we lost thousands of US lives and hundreds of billions of taxpayer cash, and still lost.

Luckily Commander in Chief Trump is bringing our boys and girls home, finally.
Are you talking about that war thate your hate group leaders lied like a banshee to get under way so the two companies with direct relationship with Cheney and Bush the baby killer turned out to be the two companies that gained the most by the war, Halliburton and Carlyle. Now is that the war your talking about and your trying to blame on the democrats. You want to see how the ultimate ignorant lie is put together , Look up code name Curve ball who was their source to start the war,, to find out what idiots Bush and his half wits were.
 
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You are conveniently forgetting the millions of people kicked off their plans, the millions of people who had to pay higher premiums and the millions who are stuck paying for plans they can't use because the deductibles are too high.
You are also forgetting that Obamacare hasn't reduced the use of emergency room visits Contrary to goals, ER visits rise under Obamacare
And that those 26 year olds are being forced to subsidize the care of higher income older people.
Listen to this cowboy complaining about people paying their way, seems to me these haters usually say everyone's' is s slug who doesn't pay their way. BUt here they are paying their way and the hate party thinks it's bad and think they shouldn't have to.
 
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You want to take down someone here , go for the weakest link and go after MacDuff it's the easiest route. Beat the pitter patter out of his weak half arguments and he then will comes back and is trying to convince the unconvincible that he has it over everyone here when he debates them.
 
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When he failed to repeal and replace Obamacare. That's on the GOP Congress too. They should have had a plan ready to go when Trump took office.
Repeal and replace "Obamacare" was a campaign slogan.
Build the wall was another.
Mexico will pay for it yet another.

There were many.

Which reminds me of a story:

A politician dies and is waiting at the Pearly Gates when the Devil approaches and says, "Don't you want to see what Hell is really like first?"
That sounds like a sort of bizzarre idea, but the pol goes along with it. What can a look hurt?
They take the down elevator, and get out. They are surrounded by stately mansions along beautiful tree lined boulevards. There are fancy new cars in every driveway. Beautiful parks are everywhere, with happy children playing in them.
So, the pol decides to go along with the Devil. He goes down again, and gets off the elevator.
The stench of sewage is in the air. There is garbage everywhere. Pitiful beggars are on every street corner. Starving dogs paw through piles of garbage looking for food. Flies are everywhere.

"Hey," says the pol. "Where are all of the mansions and beautiful parks?"

"Oh, that was the campaign. This is after the election."

Having a plan to replace Obamacare with something better was during the campaign. This is after the election.
 
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Oh, I didn't forget about any of that. Some people were worse off after the ACA passed. Overall, that's not the case, but there are some who had problems because of it.

Therefore, the thing to do is to:

A. See if the plan can be fine tuned so that those who weren't better off could be helped, or
B. Try our best to sink the ACA, make sure it fails, and then attempt to repeal it, even when there is nothing to replace it, or
C. Make it a political football, do our best to try to torpedo it until it becomes obvious that, overall, most people like the ACA better than what existed before or
D. Launch a disinformation campaign to try to ensure than no one really knows what the ACA really is, starting with scary talk about "death panels."
Overall that IS the case. It's criminal in my mind to take from the producers so the lazy can enjoy free stuff.

Most people recognize the aca is far from affordable