Hawaii to federal government: give us back our kingdom

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Native Hawaiians gave a resounding no to the federal government after weeks of discussions surrounding giving Native Hawaiians a "tribe like status" similar to Native Americans have with reservations. Instead Hawaiians want their kingdom back. Very interesting.

“The Kingdom of Hawaii was never a tribe,” Francis Moku Malani, Jr. testified at the Hilo hearing last week, “We are a sovereign nation."

"The 1993 Apology Resolution publicly acknowledged and apologized for the United States’ involvement in the illegal overthrow of Queen Liliuokalani and the Kingdom of Hawaii in 1893, admitting that the United States violated Native Hawaiians’ right to self-determination and international law."

"What you propose here is that the nation that overthrew our peoples and apologized for it without making reparations, that that nation would sit at the table and somehow fashion a procedure, hoping that in the future another true nation would somehow emerge. That will never happen."


Native Hawaiians to Federal Government: Give Us Back Our Kingdom - NBC News
 
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The kingdom should be restored. It was taken by force without any sort of just cause...it was simple greed by some powerful people.

The US should return Hawaii to the natives and they can negotiate what to do with all the "americans"..if they can be offered dual citizenship or would the US need to "purchase their homes" and help those families relocate. This could be a process that takes a decade, but a slow return with deadlines could be the most peaceful way to do it.

Its nice to see someone pay attention to this issue. I have followed it a bit for years..this is not a new issue by a long shot.
 
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So, how would that work, exactly?

There are fewer than 8,000 pure Hawaiians living today, but the number of those who are part-Hawaiian, has increased steadily over the last century. Most Native Hawaiians today have less than 50% pure Hawaiian blood
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SOURCE: Hawaii Ethnicity

Would anyone less that pure Hawaiian be asked to leave? Would those who are part Hawaiian be allowed to stay but only have half a vote? Or would there be any voting at all in a kingdom? Who gets to rule, the closest ancestor to the last king or queen? Yeah, that's what the world needs, another kingdom.
 
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Hawaii has always been culturally separated somewhat from the rest of the US. It's really not surprising to me that so many would want to secede to become their own independent state.
 

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They should declare themselves a "People's Kingdom" and elect a "People's King/Queen", and then ask Putin for help :D Russia could definitely use another warm water port/resort lol
 
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Native Hawaiians gave a resounding no to the federal government after weeks of discussions surrounding giving Native Hawaiians a "tribe like status" similar to Native Americans have with reservations. Instead Hawaiians want their kingdom back. Very interesting.

“The Kingdom of Hawaii was never a tribe,” Francis Moku Malani, Jr. testified at the Hilo hearing last week, “We are a sovereign nation."

"The 1993 Apology Resolution publicly acknowledged and apologized for the United States’ involvement in the illegal overthrow of Queen Liliuokalani and the Kingdom of Hawaii in 1893, admitting that the United States violated Native Hawaiians’ right to self-determination and international law."

"What you propose here is that the nation that overthrew our peoples and apologized for it without making reparations, that that nation would sit at the table and somehow fashion a procedure, hoping that in the future another true nation would somehow emerge. That will never happen."


Native Hawaiians to Federal Government: Give Us Back Our Kingdom - NBC News

So if Hawaii is no longer a state.....that means "you know who" can't be president.

(Uh oh. Here we go again....)
 
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The U.S. stole a lot of land from Mexico, too. That has no bearing on who should own it today.