House GOP Freedom Caucus stands tall against Trumpcare-

Mar 2012
59,991
41,456
New Hampshire
Really interesting to watch. Could be a no win situation for a lot of them. Vote for the bill and it sucks, lose your seat. Vote against the bill and Trump holds rallies against you, lose your seat. Not good options.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
Jul 2014
38,922
33,912
Border Fence
The extreme battle is one of conscience. How can one say that they were a non-Establishment Republican and back Trump and this establishment bill.

Lets remember Trump WAS NOT the freedom caucus' candidate. They may vote for Trump not to have Clinton, get a Supreme Court nominee, and get a signature on legislation they support...but they were NEVER going to support or fund Trump money costing projects.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
Jul 2014
38,922
33,912
Border Fence
Really interesting to watch. Could be a no win situation for a lot of them. Vote for the bill and it sucks, lose your seat. Vote against the bill and Trump holds rallies against you, lose your seat. Not good options.
I doubt that Freedom Caucus members' seats are going to be threatened by a Trump clone.
 
Jun 2013
29,973
22,548
VA
Really interesting to watch. Could be a no win situation for a lot of them. Vote for the bill and it sucks, lose your seat. Vote against the bill and Trump holds rallies against you, lose your seat. Not good options.
Trump wouldn't hold rallies against them....he doesn't care what happens to Congressional Republicans one way or the other. He only cares about himself.

What would hurt them in voting against ANY "repeal and replace" would be....the GOP Base would see that Republicans are useless and all their "Just give us the House, Senate, and a Repub President and we'll get rid of Obamacare and replace it with something better. But we can't do it without all three of those things"...

was bullshit the whole time since 2010.
 
Jul 2014
38,922
33,912
Border Fence
Trump wouldn't hold rallies against them....he doesn't care what happens to Congressional Republicans one way or the other. He only cares about himself.

What would hurt them in voting against ANY "repeal and replace" would be....the GOP Base would see that Republicans are useless and all their "Just give us the House, Senate, and a Repub President and we'll get rid of Obamacare and replace it with something better. But we can't do it without all three of those things"...

was bullshit the whole time since 2010.
He has to. Trump has to have rallies to blame someone for his failure.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
Jun 2013
29,973
22,548
VA
The extreme battle is one of conscience. How can one say that they were a non-Establishment Republican and back Trump and this establishment bill.

Lets remember Trump WAS NOT the freedom caucus' candidate. They may vote for Trump not to have Clinton, get a Supreme Court nominee, and get a signature on legislation they support...but they were NEVER going to support or fund Trump money costing projects.

The Freedom Caucus guys are more Ayn Rand than even Paul Ryan....which put the GOP into an unwinnable position.

The FC guys wouldn't vote for anything BUT a "pure conservative bill".....but a pure conservative bill would throw millions off their insurance and cost the Republicans the Senate...maybe even House...in 2018 (as well as destroy Trump in 2020).

But a "less than pure conservative bill" can't pass the House, due to FC opposition, which means even if the Senate comes up with a bill and it goes to Conference?

Guys like Meadows will still oppose it and it'll fail again.
 
Jun 2013
29,973
22,548
VA
He has to. Trump has to have rallies to blame someone for his failure.
He'd hold rallies....but it'd be about shunting the blame from himself and towards "generic Swamp Politicians"....

he probably wouldn't specifically target a specific Repub in a District or State, because he fears they'll turn on him and support a Special Prosecutor on him and Putin before they leave office.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person