"I won't have children due to climate change"

Dec 2014
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Bet thats not too popular?

Well, some years ago our country shifted from an aged pension to superannuation based retirement structure. Of course there is still a safety net, however, with rising costs in this country (energy, housing etc.), many cannot afford to retire. It has been stated by leading economists that one needs $1 million to retire comfortably in Australia and if one doesn't own a home (which is out of reach for many), one will be condemned to a life of penury in one's sunset years, unless one possess such wealth. There is of course, an outcry but many are resigned to never giving up full time work. Many low paid workers of my generation (late boomer; early X) were already in the workforce for some time when the superannuation plan was brought in, therefore, they will never have enough money to retire fully.

The superannuation plan was introduced about 1989. The nation had to forgo CPI (consumer price index) wage rises for about a decade, and the employer redirected the funds for normal rises according to the CPI into a super fund. People also contribute to the fund themselves if possible and the government will match said personal contributions up to a point.
 

Babba

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Many countries with universal healthcare and social programs are considering it. As its been said, they have to take care of the older workers. I think it was France or Spain who has a system where many retire by age 60 and they said if the number of those having children doesnt go up, they will have to up that age to 70 or even more. Lots of anger at that one!
This is why immigration, of whatever kind, is important. The populations coming rom Muslim and Hispanic counties are younger populations. Most European countries and the US need these younger populations. (As well as Japan.) But we'll cut our noses off to spite our faces.
 
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johnflesh

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The top picture is one of the future if we don't do something. If we do something, it will continue to look like the bottom.
Bottom of what? The Universe?

I was making a humorous commentary based on the relevant "culture" here at sunny ol PH. But let's not let it go to our heads, shall we?

IE: At PH the sky is always falling.
In the real world it only falls occasionally.
 
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This is why immigration, of whatever kind, is important. The populations coming rom Muslim and Hispanic counties are younger populations. Most European countries and the US need these younger populations. (As well as Japan.) But we'll cut our noses off to spite our faces.
But at the same time those countries would be losing those young people too forcing their countries further into despair and poverty. So its not as clear cut.
 

Babba

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But at the same time those countries would be losing those young people too forcing their countries further into despair and poverty. So its not as clear cut.
Their populations are just much younger than ours and it's not like those countries are being emptied out.
 
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Their populations are just much younger than ours and it's not like those countries are being emptied out.
True but thats changing too. They certainly are having more babies than us, but not as many as they used to. The problem though politically is that all these new immigrants are locating in certain areas/states and other states are growing old. With the electoral college, that means many states will just grow older and whiter since the immigrants choose to live in areas they are familiar with. So it would be necessary for them to have reason to want to move to the rust belt or northern New England. Cant blame them for wanting to be where its sunny and warm.
 
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The Australian government offered a 'Baby Bonus' of $6000 (IIRC) at one point in order to raise the birth rate ~ a conservative initiative no less!
Apparently young adults are being convinced not to have families. Maybe it's economic, career goals or in the case of this ding-bat .. it's guilt about destroying the earth.
That idea was pumped into her head.
 
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You import them from the third world. Politicians in states like California will give them free healthcare to insure they keep breeding on everyone else's dime.
Are you going to pick strawberries, oranges, artichokes, almonds in, slaughter the cows and pluck the chickens in CA or any STATE? Who's gonna wipe your ass in the hospital, hospice or in your own bed on your way off the planet?

1--We've had 'illegals' doing dirty work for the at least 6 decades (that I know of)
2--IMMIGRANT women (legal or illegal) take on the fecundity rate of the country they emigrate to--within one generation. Actually Hispanic women's, though higher, by 1/2 a birth per 1000, have dropped 30%, a whole lot faster than white women who have 'chosen' not to have kids. Guess Hispanic women are taking control of THEIR reproductive systems once they get here. Oh shit!

I assume, of course, that that has been since the pill was available and women could get them--all women. Now let's take abortion away, closing the same CLINICS that provide birth control! GOOD PLAN ASSHOLES!

Quit your fucking lies or LOOK SOMETHING UP! Anything.
 
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