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namvet69

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Part one of my plan deals with security in Baghdad. Following posts will deal with training the Iraqi military, roles of the US outside of the capital, and the withdrawal of US forces from Iraq.


#1
US troops cease all combat patrols and policing actions in and around the Iraqi capital.
Iraqi troops take all responsibility for the security of the capital, all Iraqi assets are to be made available for this action. US troops active in the Iraqi capital will conduct a complete withdrawal to a secure, defendable site just outside of Baghdad.
The US will maintain responsibility for logistical support of Iraqi forces in the capital. US troop movements will be limited to prearranged and scheduled resupply actions with security in force. US resupply will travel with a security detail of a 1-2 (non infantry-infantry) ratio including ground support, rotary winged close air support, and fixed wing air support on station.
Emergancy resupply will be conducted by US forces in air drop situations only.

The goal is to eliminate the perception of an occupying force, showing the Iraqi people that the insugancy is a threat to their goals rather than the goals of the US.
The US would maintain logistical support until the Iraqis are capable of taking over this responsiblity.
Boy, I couldn't agree more. Were you a general in a former life? But, and this is a very big but, when the hell are Iraqi troops going to be battle ready or security ready at least. I was a fully trained Marine Grunt in 5 Months and here we are almost five years into it. By administration estimates (pentagon also) There is MAYBE 1, I repeat 1, battalion fully trained in Iraq. What the hell have we been doing over there? First we disband the army and then we fail to reasemble or train them. One gigantic blunder after another. I'm beginning to believe (don't shoot) that we couldn't do worse if we simply packed it in and got the hell out and let the chips fall where they may.
My best to you.
 
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Sparta

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Boy, I couldn't agree more. Were you a general in a former life? But, and this is a very big but, when the hell are Iraqi troops going to be battle ready or security ready at least. I was a fully trained Marine Grunt in 5 Months and here we are almost five years into it. By administration estimates (pentagon also) There is MAYBE 1, I repeat 1, battalion fully trained in Iraq..
All I know is I didnt have the will or connections to make it that far in this life.

Iraq is roughly 2k in diameter and conservative estimates put the police force at 79,000. Remember, the plan is to put the burden of security in the capital on the Iraqi people, my plan assumes that the Iraqis will struggle and become more responsible because of it. Without the benifit of a US scapegoat the Iraqis will be forced to see the insurgancy as an attack on the Iraqi people.
A battalion will be enough....for now.

#2 Training

The US will establish a training program for Iraqi troops based on the US Army basic training course. Iraqi basic training is to be conducted within secure US Military instilations and conducted by US drill instructors. Iraqi troops who qualify will be trained at US DI schools in the United States and cycled in to the Iraqi program.
Graduating classes of Iraqis will be kept together as complete units in the same way special units were formed in the US during WWII. Existing Iraqi units will be intergrated with the new units to fill leadership roles with combat experienced soldiers.
Members of existing Iraqi forces not required to fill leadership roles with new units will be redesignated as search and rescue units and quick reactionary forces.


Notes. I went with Army training because of the condensed 13 week training program. While Marines turn out a better trained unit at the most basic level, the Army specializes in mass production of combat ready soldiers.

The typical US basic training course collects a class ready to train in 2 weeks, if we alot 4 weeks for an Iraqi class to acumulate we can expect to turn out the first combat operational force in 17 weeks.

Trying to stay realistic, I'm going with 24 Iraqi DIs turned out by the US and ready to take a class every 13 weeks, that's 4 weeks to travel and prepare and 9 weeks for the actual program. Since it takes 4 DIs to train 1 platoon, and each DI needs 1 cycle before he can lead a class, the first all Iraqi trained battalion will be turned out on the 52nd week, and one battalion will be turned out every 13 weeks after that. You can see that this math only includes the capablities of the first two Iraqi DI classes, each DI class that follows will be a force multiplier.

In the begining, there will be no need for specialized positions in the army as it's goal it to take over a policing mission, medical specialists will be the only acception to US presence in Baghdad, medics will be comprised of SF soldiers attatched to Iraqi units and will wear all Iraqi field insignia. Iraqi field medics will be trained by SF units and intergrated in to the Iraqi forces upon completion of training.

Officer training for Iraq under my plan would be a different method from any in place in the world today, and I can't detail that and make sense out of it for you until I move in to the next part of my plan which focuses on the US role on the Iraq/Iran border.
 
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Sparta

#13
With so many critical of the plan in Iraq I thought this thread would be a barn burner. I wish I could say I misjuded this group.
 
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ssgiceman

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i am not against the iraq deal so i don't qualify here....but......i would like to point out one of the brightest things they have in mind.

they are sending me back..in about 2 months you will be reading how the climate in iraq has changed

i intend to win the hearts of the locals, rip out the hearts of the insurgents,then come home kiss my baby girl, get on this sight and say ...I told you so
 
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Sparta

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i am not against the iraq deal so i don't qualify here....but......i would like to point out one of the brightest things they have in mind.

they are sending me back..in about 2 months you will be reading how the climate in iraq has changed

i intend to win the hearts of the locals, rip out the hearts of the insurgents,then come home kiss my baby girl, get on this sight and say ...I told you so
The Nazi board rules won't let me give you green rep, I think it's bullshit.
 
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Orthodox Marxist

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Turns out we are in Iraq.
If you don't like the "stay the course" plan, let's hear yours.
71% of Iraqis want the U.S out of the country within a year.
36% of Iraqis want the U.S out of the country within 6 months.

61% of Iraqis approve of attacks on U.S forces.


Give the people what they want withdraw from Iraq.