If Trump was an African American......

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Well, first off, would an African American have been able to run on the campaign slogan "Make America Great Again"? Who knows? We don't even know if anyone else regardless would have be able to.

Would an African American have been able to embrace an incident of racial intolerance by saying there were good people on both sides? Again. Who knows? We don't know if anyone else regardless would have been able to.

Would an African American have been able to escape being impeached based on what we know about Trump? Who knows? That particular advantage has more to do with Republican's being afraid of Trump's base. Nothing to do with race.

Would an African American have been able to attack the judiciary, refuse to comply with subpoenas, label the news media as "enemies of the people, etc - any of that? Once again. Who knows?

Would an African American have been able to win an election based on dividing American's based on racial resentments? Well, the obvious answer to that one is "no". Whites are the majority still. So, how would that even work? How would a African American win an election by generating animus towards minorities , migrants, etc? Trump was able to based on his own unique version of what is commonly referred to as "The Southern Strategy". This after Republican's recognized that they would need to expand their base after Romney lost. Trump came along and blew that all up. Not to mention the Russians targeting American's based on racial resentments. Most of the narrative we see coming from the right, to this day, may very well have been generated by Russians. How would that campaign work for an African American's candidate for president? Do we even want to know?

Would an African American have been able to control the media narrative to the point where a significant portion of the electorate couldn't tell the difference between factual reporting and "fake news"? Who knows? Possibly.

The point seems clear. We don't know for certain what difference , if any, it would make if Trump were an African American. It is a hypothetical after all. So how could we, really? How do we analyze that? So why even ask the question in the first place?

Well, because race has become a central issue in the 2020 presidential election. Terms such as "identity politics" are going to be reexamined. Issues such as discrimination, criminal justice, police brutality, reparations, income inequality, etc, all of that, are being inserted as we speak into the platforms of all of the presidential candidates. In a word, we're not going to be able to escape a good hard discussion on race in this country. Any candidate running for president on the Democrat side is going to need to galvanize the so-called "black vote". There's no getting around it this election. That's why.


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Well, first off, would an African American have been able to run on the campaign slogan "Make America Great Again"? Who knows? We don't even know if anyone else regardless would have be able to.

Would an African American have been able to embrace an incident of racial intolerance by saying there were good people on both sides? Again. Who knows? We don't know if anyone else regardless would have been able to.

Would an African American have been able to escape being impeached based on what we know about Trump? Who knows? That particular advantage has more to do with Republican's being afraid of Trump's base. Nothing to do with race.

Would an African American have been able to attack the judiciary, refuse to comply with subpoenas, label the news media as "enemies of the people, etc - any of that? Once again. Who knows?

Would an African American have been able to win an election based on dividing American's based on racial resentments? Well, the obvious answer to that one is "no". Whites are the majority still. So, how would that even work? How would a African American win an election by generating animus towards minorities , migrants, etc? Trump was able to based on his own unique version of what is commonly referred to as "The Southern Strategy". This after Republican's recognized that they would need to expand their base after Romney lost. Trump came along and blew that all up. Not to mention the Russians targeting American's based on racial resentments. Most of the narrative we see coming from the right, to this day, may very well have been generated by Russians. How would that campaign work for an African American's candidate for president? Do we even want to know?

Would an African American have been able to control the media narrative to the point where a significant portion of the electorate couldn't tell the difference between factual reporting and "fake news"? Who knows? Possibly.

The point seems clear. We don't know for certain what difference , if any, it would make if Trump were an African American. It is a hypothetical after all. So how could we, really? How do we analyze that? So why even ask the question in the first place?

Well, because race has become a central issue in the 2020 presidential election. Terms such as "identity politics" are going to be reexamined. Issues such as discrimination, criminal justice, police brutality, reparations, income inequality, etc, all of that, are being inserted as we speak into the platforms of all of the presidential candidates. In a word, we're not going to be able to escape a good hard discussion on race in this country. Any candidate running for president on the Democrat side is going to need to galvanize the so-called "black vote". There's no getting around it this election. That's why.


Your thought?
Certainly old Soviet intel, KGB and such, had links with black civil rights and such groups in the US, including radicals, Black Panthers, etc.

I am sure modern day FSB and SVR (doubt about GRU, they are more into military stuff) have some connections there still.

So, if there was a black candidate, and they had a reason to back him, why the hell not....
 
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Well, first off, would an African American have been able to run on the campaign slogan "Make America Great Again"? Who knows? We don't even know if anyone else regardless would have be able to.
At least then we wouldn't have the constant squealing about racism.


Would an African American have been able to embrace an incident of racial intolerance by saying there were good people on both sides? Again. Who knows? We don't know if anyone else regardless would have been able to.
Didn't happen. Go look to the actual quote verbatim, this version is a media created fiction.

Would an African American have been able to escape being impeached based on what we know about Trump? Who knows? That particular advantage has more to do with Republican's being afraid of Trump's base. Nothing to do with race.
Considering the lack of evidence, I don't see why the risk would be any different.

Would an African American have been able to attack the judiciary, refuse to comply with subpoenas, label the news media as "enemies of the people, etc - any of that? Once again. Who knows?
Another false premise. Premises, since he didn't label news media, he was more specific than that.

Would an African American have been able to win an election based on dividing American's based on racial resentments? Well, the obvious answer to that one is "no". Whites are the majority still. So, how would that even work? How would a African American win an election by generating animus towards minorities , migrants, etc? Trump was able to based on his own unique version of what is commonly referred to as "The Southern Strategy". This after Republican's recognized that they would need to expand their base after Romney lost. Trump came along and blew that all up. Not to mention the Russians targeting American's based on racial resentments. Most of the narrative we see coming from the right, to this day, may very well have been generated by Russians. How would that campaign work for an African American's candidate for president? Do we even want to know?
Another false premise... This is repeating media talking points.

Would an African American have been able to control the media narrative to the point where a significant portion of the electorate couldn't tell the difference between factual reporting and "fake news"? Who knows? Possibly.
The media was always that dishonest, Trump just made them expose themselves as such.

The point seems clear. We don't know for certain what difference , if any, it would make if Trump were an African American. It is a hypothetical after all. So how could we, really? How do we analyze that? So why even ask the question in the first place?

Well, because race has become a central issue in the 2020 presidential election. Terms such as "identity politics" are going to be reexamined. Issues such as discrimination, criminal justice, police brutality, reparations, income inequality, etc, all of that, are being inserted as we speak into the platforms of all of the presidential candidates. In a word, we're not going to be able to escape a good hard discussion on race in this country. Any candidate running for president on the Democrat side is going to need to galvanize the so-called "black vote". There's no getting around it this election. That's why.


Your thought?
Thoughts... Trump did not create the lefts hatred, he highlighted it.
 

the watchman

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Certainly old Soviet intel, KGB and such, had links with black civil rights and such groups in the US, including radicals, Black Panthers, etc.

I am sure modern day FSB and SVR (doubt about GRU, they are more into military stuff) have some connections there still.

So, if there was a black candidate, and they had a reason to back him, why the hell not....
connections to who , exactly ?
 
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Well, first off, would an African American have been able to run on the campaign slogan "Make America Great Again"? Who knows? We don't even know if anyone else regardless would have be able to.

Would an African American have been able to embrace an incident of racial intolerance by saying there were good people on both sides? Again. Who knows? We don't know if anyone else regardless would have been able to.

Would an African American have been able to escape being impeached based on what we know about Trump? Who knows? That particular advantage has more to do with Republican's being afraid of Trump's base. Nothing to do with race.

Would an African American have been able to attack the judiciary, refuse to comply with subpoenas, label the news media as "enemies of the people, etc - any of that? Once again. Who knows?

Would an African American have been able to win an election based on dividing American's based on racial resentments? Well, the obvious answer to that one is "no". Whites are the majority still. So, how would that even work? How would a African American win an election by generating animus towards minorities , migrants, etc? Trump was able to based on his own unique version of what is commonly referred to as "The Southern Strategy". This after Republican's recognized that they would need to expand their base after Romney lost. Trump came along and blew that all up. Not to mention the Russians targeting American's based on racial resentments. Most of the narrative we see coming from the right, to this day, may very well have been generated by Russians. How would that campaign work for an African American's candidate for president? Do we even want to know?

Would an African American have been able to control the media narrative to the point where a significant portion of the electorate couldn't tell the difference between factual reporting and "fake news"? Who knows? Possibly.

The point seems clear. We don't know for certain what difference , if any, it would make if Trump were an African American. It is a hypothetical after all. So how could we, really? How do we analyze that? So why even ask the question in the first place?

Well, because race has become a central issue in the 2020 presidential election. Terms such as "identity politics" are going to be reexamined. Issues such as discrimination, criminal justice, police brutality, reparations, income inequality, etc, all of that, are being inserted as we speak into the platforms of all of the presidential candidates. In a word, we're not going to be able to escape a good hard discussion on race in this country. Any candidate running for president on the Democrat side is going to need to galvanize the so-called "black vote". There's no getting around it this election. That's why.


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The Watchman,

If President Trump were a black man, black liberals would be tearing him down, calling him an "Uncle Tom."
 
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Trump is not the victim here!
We The People are the victim and he needs to be in prison.