Illinois Considers Another Terrifying Law Allowing Infanticide

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Illinois Considers Another Terrifying Law Allowing Infanticide
Illinois is climbing on the infanticide bandwagon with a bill that removes any limits on abortion. It is sponsored by one-third of the state House. This bill is terrifying in its scope.



By Elizabeth Bauer
MARCH 1, 2019

On January 22, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed into law a measure permitting abortion up to the gestational age of 24 weeks for any reason, and after that point, if “necessary to protect the patient’s life or health,” that is, broadening its prior “life of the mother” law to one based on the broad Doe v. Bolton definition as overall well-being.
On February 21, the Vermont House passed a measure that “would legalize abortion at any stage of pregnancy and for any reason,” as described by Alexandra DeSanctis at National Review. The House sent it to the state’s Senate.

Then Illinois climbed on the bandwagon with a bill that removes any limits on abortion, HB 2495, the Reproductive Health Act. As of February 28, it had 42 sponsors, out of a total of 118 members of the Illinois House of Representatives, 73 of whom are Democrats. On Tuesday, it was assigned to a committee. This bill is terrifying in its scope.
To begin with, it wholly repeals IL 720, the Illinois Abortion Law of 1975. This law has been amended multiple times, including in 2017 (HB 40), but some minimal protections remained, so that current Illinois law permits post-viability abortions but requires that an attending or referring physician determine that it was “necessary to preserve the life or health of the mother,” in which case the doctor was required to document the particular medical indications for the abortion. It also requires that, if the baby would be capable of survival, the doctor use the abortion method “most likely to preserve the life and health of the fetus” and a second physician be available to provide medical care for any child born alive. These provisions would be entirely removed.
The bill also would repeal the Partial-birth Abortion Ban Act and the Abortion Performance Refusal Act, which, as its name suggest, protects the conscience rights of those who refuse to perform abortions. Instead, it categorically states that “Every individual who becomes pregnant has a fundamental right to continue the pregnancy and give birth or to have an abortion, and to make autonomous decisions about how to exercise that right.” It also states “A fertilized egg, embryo, or fetus does not have independent rights under the laws of this State.” Illinois Considers Another Terrifying Law Allowing Infanticide
 

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Great news!

Glad to see the fear lingering myths of “infanticide” are not taken seriously by legislators. It’s nice to see science and medicine triumph over propaganda for a change.

Abortions past 20 weeks are very rare. They are primarily preformed due to serious medical complications.

I urge those who but into the baby murderer myth to read the stories of these women. This is what post first trimester abortions are really like.


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Great news!

Glad to see the fear lingering myths of “infanticide” are not taken seriously by legislators. It’s nice to see science and medicine triumph over propaganda for a change.

Abortions past 20 weeks are very rare. They are primarily preformed due to serious medical complications.

I urge those who but into the baby murderer myth to read the stories of these women. This is what post first trimester abortions are really like.


The agony of ending a wanted late-term pregnancy: three women speak out

At 20 Weeks Pregnant, I Had Hope for My Baby. At 23 Weeks, I Had an Abortion.
Fear mongering you call it. So let me get this straight are you for the death penalty or not? And then we will proceed. And BTW if they are rare, there is just one too many. Did you get that part? And who made any of us God to determine whether to allow a viable being to live or not live?
 
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Finally! Women are given more rights than the clumps of cells growing their own uteruses.

t “Every individual who becomes pregnant has a fundamental right to continue the pregnancy and give birth or to have an abortion, and to make autonomous decisions about how to exercise that right.” It also states “A fertilized egg, embryo, or fetus does not have independent rights under the laws of this State”
Most of the shit it repeals is just emotional nonsense anyway. It only exists to try and restrict access to abortion by placing unnessessary and assanine regulations on abortions.
 
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Finally! Women are given more rights than the clumps of cells growing their own uteruses.



Most of the shit it repeals is just emotional nonsense anyway. It only exists to try and restrict access to abortion by placing unnessessary and assanine regulations on abortions.
I will ask you again who made you God to decide whether a viable being lives or not? And maybe you might like to share current statistics (and I mean current) on how many late term abortions were performed last year in this country? Remember if there was just one it is one too many.
 

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Fear mongering you call it. So let me get this straight are you for the death penalty or not? And then we will proceed. And BTW if they are rare, there is just one too many. Did you get that part? And who made any of us God to determine whether to allow a viable being to live?
What?

I take it you didn’t read the links. Abortions outside of 20 weeks are very rare and are done for extreme cases.
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In the case of one of the women above, her fetus was growing an inoperable tumor that was engilifoits brain and lungs. The fetus would have died before the due date and the woman forced to either carry and birth a decomposing infant, or have it dismembered and removed inside her.
 

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I will ask you again who made you God to decide whether a viable being lives or not? And maybe you might like to share current statistics (and I mean current) on how many late term abortions were performed last year in this country? Remember if there was just one it is one too many.
Doctors know if a fetus is viable, that’s why they are doctors.

God is irrelevant. This is about science and medicine, not about feelings and myth. Your opinion on what is “one too many” is just that, an opinion. Doctors and their patients make their decisions based on careful examination of the medical facts.

“Late term” is a misnomer. It has no scientific meaning and is only used as a buzzword to elicit an emotional response.

Just 1.3% of abortions are performed at or after 21 weeks, and an estimated 0.2% of all abortions involve the dilation and evacuation procedure.
No, Late-Term Abortions Don't 'Rip' Babies Out Of Wombs -- And They Exist For A Reason
 
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Doctors know if a fetus is viable, that’s why they are doctors.

God is irrelevant. This is about science and medicine, not about feelings and myth. Your opinion on what is “one too many” is just that, an opinion. Doctors and their patients make their decisions based on careful examination of the medical facts.

“Late term” is a misnomer. It has no scientific meaning and is only used as a buzzword to elicit an emotional response.
God is always relevant. And what is scientific when you kill a viable being because you make a decision you don't want the baby? Doctors and patients are not God. And try answering my question...are you for the death penalty or not?

Late term is no misnomer. If it was, why these new foolish laws on late term abortion?
 
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Fear mongering you call it. So let me get this straight are you for the death penalty or not? And then we will proceed. And BTW if they are rare, there is just one too many. Did you get that part? And who made any of us God to determine whether to allow a viable being to live or not live?
What the fuck does the death penalty have to do with it and what business is it of yours what someone else does with their body? I suggest if you don't like abortions then don't get one.
 
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What the fuck does the death penalty have to do with it and what business is it of yours what someone else does with their body? I suggest if you don't like abortions then don't get one.
Is it always necessary to drop the F bomb? Is that a sign you are one tough guy? When you clean your mouth up I would be happy to tell you why I asked that question.
 
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