Interesting and sad that this is perhaps not a surprise.....

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From the folks who want to others to be subject to their religion, via the law.

"The head of the Tennessee legislature is banishing one of the members, state Rep. Jeremy Durham (R), after a state investigation found that he engaged in inappropriate physical conduct with government staffers and “may pose a continuing risk to unsuspecting women.”
Tennessee Lawmaker Exiled Because He May Pose A Risk To ?Unsuspecting Women?


It is also interesting that if one is to break down religion into political terms, at least amongst those asked in the following poll, there is an indication that while, religion in general, or even claiming to be Christian, is not partial or aligned with any specific political party or philosophy, there does seem to be an alignment regarding a specific sector of Christianity that leans "right", but for at least one division of that sector, that looks to lean "left".

Interesting in of itself, also seems to be the divisions of Christianity, both in identification and political leaning.



http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...6-02-22_religionpoliticalaffiliation_640px-2/


Interesting that it appears, of those asked, that the majority of those leaning right, fall into the same sector of Christian belief.....It seems to follow what one finds in general contact with others in society, but what is it that has some suggesting that all "liberals" or Democrats are non-religious (when those polled seem to indicate otherwise) and all Christians are "conservatives" or republicans.

Democrats, Independents and all those of other parties who believe in Christ, it would seem, have a different take on the "conservative"/republican take on Christ's teachings and how or whether they should be asserted on those that do not believe in Christ or God(s), if only for the sake of recognizing, discrimination, self-righteousness anger and even hatred of other human beings for what they were born as, do not appear to be in keeping with what Christ appeared to be teaching.

When Christ fed the masses, did he question everyone about their sins first and then deny those who were sinners?


Some might also find this interesting:

"World | Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:49am EDT Related: WORLD, NORWAY, SUBJECTS, GAY MARRIAGE
Norway's Lutheran church votes in favor of same-sex marriage."


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-norway-gaymarriage-idUSKCN0X81EW

Perhaps nice to know that some people are recognizing that love is perhaps something Christ and God have been trying to teach humans to do to one another.

There only seems to be one group singled out in the following mentions of "love" and that appears to be about what they do and do not seem to do. Interesting perhaps, is who they are identified as, although describing a class of Roman tax collectors then, how it connects in more ways than one, to some of the actions of some of today's rePUBLICAN party.

46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5&version=KJV
 
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Christ spoke about sin quite a bit.
But never did he suggest, in any of his sermons/conversations/discussions that "sinners" should be excluded, put upon, or denied decency, and respect just because they were "sinners". Yet the Christian Right - as opposed to the Christian Left - seems to think it is perfectly okay to treat "sinners" as if they are less deserving of common decency, respect, or equal treatment - and then dare to cite Jesus as their model for doing so.
 
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Put me in the category of "Nothing in Particular", please.

It's the fastest growing category out there, and it would be even larger, were people more honest in answering polls regarding their religious beliefs. Many will claim the religion that they grew up with, even if they aren't actively participating in that religion. Poll data regarding frequency of religious service attendance always exceeds actual attendance as measured by the various churches/synagogues.
 
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Christ spoke about sin quite a bit.
Yes, he did, but who's paying attention to what he actually said?

Would you say greed is a sin?

How about gluttony?

Vanity?

Wrath?

Anger?


What about adultery? One of the 10 Commandments.....



39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.

41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;


https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5&version=KJV


John 8:1-11King James Version (KJV)

8 Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.

2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.

3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,

4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.

7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.

9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?

11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+8:1-11&version=KJV
 
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It's the fastest growing category out there, and it would be even larger, were people more honest in answering polls regarding their religious beliefs. Many will claim the religion that they grew up with, even if they aren't actively participating in that religion. Poll data regarding frequency of religious service attendance always exceeds actual attendance as measured by the various churches/synagogues.
I also believe there are a lot of people (who believe in Christ) who wonder what Bibles and sermons some other Christians are reading/hearing, that seem to teach the total opposite of what the Bibles they have read and the sermons they have heard, teach. The blatantly obvious seem to be regarding greed and gluttony. Where in the Bible does Christ talk about paying less taxes so he can build his fourth mega-mansion for himself? For most people, there seems to be an indication that Christ lived a mostly humble and simple life with few luxuries and material riches for himself and urged the fortunate to share their good fortune with others. For some others, apparently greed and gluttony are what Christ told his followers to strive for so they could pat themselves and one another on the back for their "success". For most people, it did not appear that Christ, when he fed the masses, required drug testing or that he refused to feed anyone he thought might be a homosexual or even an adulterer, divorcee, heterosexual fornicator, thief, avenger, you name the sin.....
To others, it seems, Christ refused to feed them if they might have had their arm around someone of the same gender or if they had been to the local physician of the day to help them end their pregnancy, because they couldn't afford to feed a child.....


Maybe some people are reading their bibles backwards or upside down?
 
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From the folks who want to others to be subject to their religion, via the law.

"The head of the Tennessee legislature is banishing one of the members, state Rep. Jeremy Durham (R), after a state investigation found that he engaged in inappropriate physical conduct with government staffers and “may pose a continuing risk to unsuspecting women.”
Tennessee Lawmaker Exiled Because He May Pose A Risk To ?Unsuspecting Women?


It is also interesting that if one is to break down religion into political terms, at least amongst those asked in the following poll, there is an indication that while, religion in general, or even claiming to be Christian, is not partial or aligned with any specific political party or philosophy, there does seem to be an alignment regarding a specific sector of Christianity that leans "right", but for at least one division of that sector, that looks to lean "left".

Interesting in of itself, also seems to be the divisions of Christianity, both in identification and political leaning.



» The political preferences of U.S. religious groups


Interesting that it appears, of those asked, that the majority of those leaning right, fall into the same sector of Christian belief.....It seems to follow what one finds in general contact with others in society, but what is it that has some suggesting that all "liberals" or Democrats are non-religious (when those polled seem to indicate otherwise) and all Christians are "conservatives" or republicans.

Democrats, Independents and all those of other parties who believe in Christ, it would seem, have a different take on the "conservative"/republican take on Christ's teachings and how or whether they should be asserted on those that do not believe in Christ or God(s), if only for the sake of recognizing, discrimination, self-righteousness anger and even hatred of other human beings for what they were born as, do not appear to be in keeping with what Christ appeared to be teaching.

When Christ fed the masses, did he question everyone about their sins first and then deny those who were sinners?


Some might also find this interesting:

"World | Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:49am EDT Related: WORLD, NORWAY, SUBJECTS, GAY MARRIAGE
Norway's Lutheran church votes in favor of same-sex marriage."


Norway's Lutheran church votes in favor of same-sex marriage | Reuters

Perhaps nice to know that some people are recognizing that love is perhaps something Christ and God have been trying to teach humans to do to one another.

There only seems to be one group singled out in the following mentions of "love" and that appears to be about what they do and do not seem to do. Interesting perhaps, is who they are identified as, although describing a class of Roman tax collectors then, how it connects in more ways than one, to some of the actions of some of today's rePUBLICAN party.

46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5&version=KJV
And now you know why the Southern Baptist is not for me. I now go to a Brethren Church, based on," The Teachings of Jesus Christ!":)
 
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