Is Barack Obama an imperial president?

Apr 2011
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The president (or his administration) has unilaterally changed elements of the Affordable Care Act (ACA); declared an anti-gay-rights law unconstitutional; lifted the threat of deportation for an entire class of undocumented immigrants; bypassed Senate confirmation of controversial nominees; waived compliance requirements in education law; and altered the work requirements under welfare reform. This month, the Obama administration took the highly unusual step of announcing that it will recognize gay marriages performed in Utah – even though Utah itself says it will not recognize them while the issue is pending in court.
Early in his presidency, Obama also expanded presidential warmaking powers, surveillance of the American public, and extrajudicial drone strikes on alleged terrorists outside the United States, including Americans – going beyond Mr. Bush's own global war on terror following 9/11. But more recently, he has flexed his executive muscle more on domestic policy.

In the process, Obama's claims of executive authority have infuriated opponents, while emboldening supporters to demand more on a range of issues, from immigration and gay rights to the minimum wage and Guantánamo Bay prison camp.
To critics, Obama is the ultimate "imperial president," willfully violating the Constitution to further his goals, having failed to convince Congress of the merits of his arguments. To others, he is exercising legitimate executive authority in the face of an intransigent Congress and in keeping with the practices of past presidents.


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the watchman

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So which actions are being , or have been, challenged in court based on being violations of the constitution?

Oh wait, yall tried that with Obamacare and got clowned.
 
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boontito

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Yes, yes, yes... he's a tyrannical, dictatorial, totalitarian monarch who had to stand for election twice and will soon be leaving office due to limits placed on the length of term he can serve.
 
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May 2012
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Well the President, more precisely the executive branch, has constantly tried to increase his powers. It started with Jefferson mostly, which is ironic since he was the loudest critic of presidential powers during the writing of the Constitution. He, of course flip-flopped once he sat in that big chair. He actually tried to diminish the power of the Supreme Court in a infamous battle with Justice Marshall and got outplayed and the Court ended up with judicial review. That would not have happened had President Jefferson not tried to usurp power for the executive branch.

Since then, all presidents have tried to increase the power of the office and have only been held in check by the strength of the Congress pushing against them. More recently in American history, the political party rivalry has replaced the traditional rivalry that's existed between the president and congress and now congress is constantly refusing to challenge the president as he pushes for more and more power.

To be fair, Obama is doing exactly what every other president has tried to do, and that's to increase their influence in government. I expect the next president, whether its democrat or republican, to push the envelope even further. This is another reason to vote for the Tea Party candidates because they will hold the executive branch in check to their constitutional powers, unlike the democrats or republicans.
 
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Imperialism has nothing to do with domestic policies. Due to America's foreign policy, yes, each American president is presiding over an imperialist system.


The president (or his administration) has unilaterally changed elements of the Affordable Care Act (ACA);

The ACA has nothing to do with fascism or imperialism it's a law designed to cement privatized healthcare in America for generations while getting rid of employer based healthcare and cutting publicly funded healthcare to the tune of 700 billion dollars. It's privatization and austerity at it's core.


declared an anti-gay-rights law unconstitutional;
Probably because they are. I find it bizarre you people will call him a "fascist" then turn around and exhibit the fascist mentality in opposing equal rights for all.



lifted the threat of deportation for an entire class of undocumented immigrants;
The Obama administration has deported more people than any US administration- ever:

Obama Administration Deported Record 1.5 Million People : It's All Politics : NPR

Immigrant families live in fear while Obama breaks a record in deportations - Salon.com


waived compliance requirements in education law
Education you say? Obama is pushing the privatization of education via charter schools:

Presidential Proclamation -- National Charter Schools Week, 2013 | The White House

Obama, defying political base, declares National Charter Schools Week - Strange Bedfellows ? Politics News


and altered the work requirements under welfare reform.
During an economic crisis jobs are scarce. Requiring people to work in order to receive benefits in the middle of the worst recession in generations would be a cruel joke. Like the banned Mordent said "I dont care if people starve in the streets, it will thin the heard". That's the same thing you're advocating.



Early in his presidency, Obama also expanded presidential warmaking powers
War? He expanded CIA and military drone attacks so he could say he was ending the war. It's simply continuity from the Bush administration and the winding down of the first phase of Middle East/Eurasian foreign policy. Something deserving of its own thread. In short, foreign policy will stay the same with either a Republican or Democrat in office- same goes for NSA spying.
 
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mikebeat1

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Imperialism has nothing to do with domestic policies. Due to America's foreign policy, yes, each American president is presiding over an imperialist system.





The ACA has nothing to do with fascism or imperialism it's a law designed to cement privatized healthcare in America for generations while getting rid of employer based healthcare and cutting publicly funded healthcare to the tune of 700 billion dollars. It's privatization and austerity at it's core.




Probably because they are. I find it bizarre you people will call him a "fascist" then turn around and exhibit the fascist mentality in opposing equal rights for all.





The Obama administration has deported more people than any US administration- ever:

Obama Administration Deported Record 1.5 Million People : It's All Politics : NPR

Immigrant families live in fear while Obama breaks a record in deportations - Salon.com




Education you say? Obama is pushing the privatization of education via charter schools:

Presidential Proclamation -- National Charter Schools Week, 2013 | The White House

Obama, defying political base, declares National Charter Schools Week - Strange Bedfellows ? Politics News




During an economic crisis jobs are scarce. Requiring people to work in order to receive benefits in the middle of the worst recession in generations would be a cruel joke. Like the banned Mordent said "I dont care if people starve in the streets, it will thin the heard". That's the same thing you're advocating.





War? He expanded CIA and military drone attacks so he could say he was ending the war. It's simply continuity from the Bush administration and the winding down of the first phase of Middle East/Eurasian foreign policy. Something deserving of its own thread. In short, foreign policy will stay the same with either a Republican or Democrat in office- same goes for NSA spying.
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the watchman

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Jul 2011
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Well the President, more precisely the executive branch, has constantly tried to increase his powers. It started with Jefferson mostly, which is ironic since he was the loudest critic of presidential powers during the writing of the Constitution. He, of course flip-flopped once he sat in that big chair. He actually tried to diminish the power of the Supreme Court in a infamous battle with Justice Marshall and got outplayed and the Court ended up with judicial review. That would not have happened had President Jefferson not tried to usurp power for the executive branch.

Since then, all presidents have tried to increase the power of the office and have only been held in check by the strength of the Congress pushing against them. More recently in American history, the political party rivalry has replaced the traditional rivalry that's existed between the president and congress and now congress is constantly refusing to challenge the president as he pushes for more and more power.

To be fair, Obama is doing exactly what every other president has tried to do, and that's to increase their influence in government. I expect the next president, whether its democrat or republican, to push the envelope even further. This is another reason to vote for the Tea Party candidates because they will hold the executive branch in check to their constitutional powers, unlike the democrats or republicans.
LMAO. Unlike Republican's eh? So, what's with the little (R) thingy I see after all the Tea Party candidates names? The ones that have been elected have ushered in one disaster for this country after another. No way American's are going to forget that.
 
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The president (or his administration) has unilaterally changed elements of the Affordable Care Act (ACA); declared an anti-gay-rights law unconstitutional; lifted the threat of deportation for an entire class of undocumented immigrants; bypassed Senate confirmation of controversial nominees; waived compliance requirements in education law; and altered the work requirements under welfare reform. This month, the Obama administration took the highly unusual step of announcing that it will recognize gay marriages performed in Utah – even though Utah itself says it will not recognize them while the issue is pending in court.
Early in his presidency, Obama also expanded presidential warmaking powers, surveillance of the American public, and extrajudicial drone strikes on alleged terrorists outside the United States, including Americans – going beyond Mr. Bush's own global war on terror following 9/11. But more recently, he has flexed his executive muscle more on domestic policy.

In the process, Obama's claims of executive authority have infuriated opponents, while emboldening supporters to demand more on a range of issues, from immigration and gay rights to the minimum wage and Guantánamo Bay prison camp.
To critics, Obama is the ultimate "imperial president," willfully violating the Constitution to further his goals, having failed to convince Congress of the merits of his arguments. To others, he is exercising legitimate executive authority in the face of an intransigent Congress and in keeping with the practices of past presidents.


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Obama sees to think that he knows what is best for people, but he is wrong.

Anti Gay rights is unconstitutional.