Is masturbation a crime against the self?

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While this may be a religious belief, it is also the subject of secular thought - such as by thinkers like Immanuel Kant.

In some traditions, as well as in some psychology - a person's body is akin to a "horse", and their mind the "rider" - while the notion of "spirit" can be linked to breath, even if one does not want to bring mysticism or the "supernatural" into it.

From this perspective, one's mind is the master of one's body, and masturbation is akin to abusing an animal under one's care.

Masturbation itself, may not be the cause of consumerism and degeneracy in the world, but a society of decadent consumerists is one in which masturbation and self-satiation are seen as the highest goods in an otherwise meaningless and worthless life - unlike in an evolved society, in which one is encouraged to prove their utility to the species.

In regards to degenerates such as "Incels" and the like, who view sex, pornography, and base things as the highest good, let alone an "entitlement" much as any lower, unthinking animal would, and are allowed to fester in their own slovenliness like nasty bacteria in a petri dish.

If society made them into eunuchs instead, or denied their masturbatory desires, perhaps this would encourage them to evolve or die, and lead to fitness for the species, nation, or tribe. We spay and neuter cats and feral animals, so why should a feral human be any different? By lowering himself to the level of a beast, he effectively loses his humanity in the process.
 
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No.

The problem is that too many are so preoccupied with trying to control what others are doing.
This wasn't advocating control (beyond self control, perhaps) - merely asking an existential question.
 

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This wasn't advocating control (beyond self control, perhaps) - merely asking an existential question.
Asked and answered. :)

Regarding the incels, they have to fix themselves, with support from their friends/family, but this is not a task for our ham handed society to resolve. Make yourself the best you can, be a good example, and help your friends and family. If more people do that, help will get around to those that need it.

And of course... There will always be a few that can't be reached.
 
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While this may be a religious belief, it is also the subject of secular thought - such as by thinkers like Immanuel Kant.

In some traditions, as well as in some psychology - a person's body is akin to a "horse", and their mind the "rider" - while the notion of "spirit" can be linked to breath, even if one does not want to bring mysticism or the "supernatural" into it.

From this perspective, one's mind is the master of one's body, and masturbation is akin to abusing an animal under one's care.

Masturbation itself, may not be the cause of consumerism and degeneracy in the world, but a society of decadent consumerists is one in which masturbation and self-satiation are seen as the highest goods in an otherwise meaningless and worthless life - unlike in an evolved society, in which one is encouraged to prove their utility to the species.

In regards to degenerates such as "Incels" and the like, who view sex, pornography, and base things as the highest good, let alone an "entitlement" much as any lower, unthinking animal would, and are allowed to fester in their own slovenliness like nasty bacteria in a petri dish.

If society made them into eunuchs instead, or denied their masturbatory desires, perhaps this would encourage them to evolve or die, and lead to fitness for the species, nation, or tribe. We spay and neuter cats and feral animals, so why should a feral human be any different? By lowering himself to the level of a beast, he effectively loses his humanity in the process.
Is masturbation a crime against the self?


A crime? Hopefully not.

(This country already has an issue with overcrowded prisons. Boy, would that fill up a few cells....)




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What the fuck is your problem?
InCels have too much time on their hands. After all, what’s the most times most InCels can jerk off per day? Twice? Three times? Eventually they’ll just end up with a sore dick and another 23 hours and 30 minutes to post weird suggestions on political forums.
 
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InCels have too much time on their hands. After all, what’s the most times most InCels can jerk off per day? Twice? Three times? Eventually they’ll just end up with a sore dick and another 23 hours and 30 minutes to post weird suggestions on political forums.
It's been widely understood that making "sex" the be-all end-all of life leads to cultural degeneracy - whether "religious" thinkers, or thinkers like Napoleon Hill, every evolved and enlightened culture has encouraged people to apply their energy to things which aren't of a purely sexual or physical variety.

Were it not so, our society would not have evolved past the likes of Neanderthals - sadly, a fatuous and consumerist culture glorifies sex, porn, and fast food, and enables those who view this as life's penultimate goal to fester in their own slovinliness - this is why we have a nation where the poor are fatter than the rich, if we rather denied them these simplistic pleasures, this might provide forced encouragement to make themselves productive and enlightened, since they are unwilling to do this on their own volition.

I used to date many women when I worked in sales, including strippers and women who I later found out were married - but saw that this fatuous worldview leads to nihilism and cultural degeneracy , lowering oneself to the level of a feral dog- as does wishing to live as a monk or ascetic who denies himself all but the minimum required to survive, as Schopenhaur postulated.