Is the hammer and sickle as offensive as the swastika or the confederate flag?

[The Man]

Im all for breaking taboos when it's a case of "this thing is taboo, but it shouldn't be". That's a positive argument to break a taboo.

But " this thing is taboo, but there are other things but there just as offensive or more, so I am gonna do this anyway".

Thats not a valid position. If those other things are as bad or worse then don't do ANY of them.

Yes I think using a Soviet flag for decoration or political statements is abhorrent and disrespectful to its victims. So that means don't wave it, it doesn't mean "oh OK that means I can wave my swastika or confederate flag now, cause fair is fair"

Tell that to the Russian diaspora here in Toronto...

(I would, but I don't wanna get beat up... lol)

This is a damn recent phenomenon here, too, I am told, since 2014, since Crimea and all that. Seems the consulate became more active here since, rallying the emigrant community to this shit...

 

[Madeline]

Once again. There may be as many as 5000 "Nazis" in this country. It is really a Prison gang called Aryan Brotherhood. Since most of the thugs are indeed LOCKED UP, I don't see them as a threat.There are far more Antifa terrorists.

Link?

 

[Isalexi]

Once again. There may be as many as 5000 "Nazis" in this country. It is really a Prison gang called Aryan Brotherhood. Since most of the thugs are indeed LOCKED UP, I don't see them as a threat.There are far more Antifa terrorists.

Wow..do you need to be educated....I guess you don’t count all the white supremacists. The have grown over 30% and rising. I guess you didn’t notice all the swatzikas in Charlottesville. I think we have different values I don’t hate a group who opposes neo-Nazis as much as I oppose the group who wants to get rid of blacks and Jews

Over 1,000 Hate Groups Are Now Active in United States, Civil Rights Group Says

 

[One]

Swastika has an interesting history.

The symbol was fine until the Nazis stigmatized/demonized it in modern times.....specifically the 1930s.





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Yes, the 45th inf division patch was a swastika prior to being changed to the Thunderbird in the 1930s

 

[Chief]

Is the hammer and sickle as offensive as the swastika or the confederate flag?



I say yes at minimum.


Discuss,

Hmm...

I am not sure if "offensive" is the right word. I grew up in the 70s and 80s, and the USSR was the enemy of my country. I have always viewed the nation of Russia and the former USSR in that light. (Though I separate how I feel about the people, from how I feel about the nation)

Certainly I would look at the first two as enemy ensigns.

I don't feel the same way about the confederate flag... perhaps I should. But because it was quite a bit earlier, I don't feel the same sort of betrayal from it... and in part that may be because I come from a state that was in that confederacy.

 

[HenryPorter]

What a stupid post. Why are you wasting my time?

Why not.

 

[Ian Jeffrey]

I don't feel the same way about the confederate flag... perhaps I should. But because it was quite a bit earlier, I don't feel the same sort of betrayal from it... and in part that may be because I come from a state that was in that confederacy.

The confederate flag is a symbol of treason. It also is a(n ironic) symbol of Donald "you-lost-get-over-it" Trump.

That said, the hammer & sickle is probably the least offensive of the three. It represented a country, and more broadly a competitor political ideology. The other two - the swastika and the confederate flag - are political symbols with hatred/genocide and treason as their ideologies, respectively. I would thus rank offensiveness of the three symbols, relative to each other, as: swastika, confederate flag, hammer-and-sickle.

 

[Puzzling Evidence]

And the hammer and sickle?

Never seen anyone fly a flag like that. Not in my entire life.

 

[Puzzling Evidence]

The confederate flag is a symbol of treason. It also is a(n ironic) symbol of Donald "you-lost-get-over-it" Trump.

Good thing we won the revolutionary war. You'd be saying the same thing about Old Glory...

 

[boontito]

Good thing we won the revolutionary war. You'd be saying the same thing about Old Glory...

Except America didn't try to secede from a country they were an equal and included part of, just as the South were not colonial possessions of the North.