Joe Scarborough Slams Glen Beck.....

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Friday Joe Scarborough slammed Glen Beck.....Scarborough a former Congressmen and Former Editor of the Florida Sun and star of the Morning Joe Show stated that Glen Beck was bad for the Republican Party, bad for conservatives, and bad for World of Media. Citing Beck has never been serious about GOP Issues, but that he shines a bad light on the Republicans with all his conspiratorial rants, and derailing of issues in which Republicans are in the process of trying to get the American People to have confidence in what they are doing. That even if President Obama wins the Presidency that the GOP stands in a pretty good position to win the Senate and hold the house.

That Beck is losing ratings and now that Fox themselves have figured this out. Scarborough then showed highlights of other Fox Personalities going after Beck and questioning as to why he is still there.

Other Republicans have been coming out and attacking Beck.....Christol-Republican Strategist, Frumm-Former White House Staff, David Gergin-Republican Strategist. Including Journalists and other Radio Hosts.....Such as Michael Medved and Hugh Hewitt.

Althought Beck has started losing ratings they are still higher than when he was at HLN/CNN.....many think this may be the beginning to the end of Beck on national television. In Which I am in total agreement with Scarborough and These other Republicans.....time to remove the chaff from the wheat so to speak......removing or bringing Beck down back to reality can be considered a good thing. We need to get rid of those that divide this country and propagate political policy issues. Could this actually be the start of attempting to clean up the World of Televised Media? Thoughts?
 
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Do you have a source for his ratings dropping?

The problem is Fox wants a conspiracist because it hits at uninformed people looking for confirmation bias. His whole setup works the scene, especially that chalkboard teacher facade. It makes his audience feel responsible and intelligent despite how it's not analytically rigorous. Anyone who prophesizes history like him fits in that boat (whether you're progressive, conservative, a financial wizard such as Cramer, Prechter, or Soros, a social demogogue, or whatever).

Beck used to be great while on CNN and when he was first on Fox. He was an authentic libertarian, but now, his integration of religion has really turned his platform inside out. Cultural conservatism is OK as long as it remains analytical. When you start justifying conservatism based on religion itself though, that's when you turn into a neocon because you start backing a noble lie. The value of religion is that it organizes folk tales with moral values for people (especially blue collar workers and children) who don't have the time, capacity, and maturity to engage in finely tuned philosophy. It is not a justification, in and of itself, for right versus wrong, but rather only an abridged explanation of justification.
 
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Do you have a source for his ratings dropping?

The problem is Fox wants a conspiracist because it hits at uninformed people looking for confirmation bias. His whole setup works the scene, especially that chalkboard teacher facade. It makes his audience feel responsible and intelligent despite how it's not analytically rigorous. Anyone who prophesizes history like him fits in that boat (whether you're progressive, conservative, a financial wizard, a social demogogue, or whatever).

Beck used to be great while on CNN and when he was first on Fox. He was an authentic libertarian, but now, his integration of religion has really turned his platform inside out. Cultural conservatism is OK as long as it remains analytical. When you start justifying conservatism based on religion itself though, that's when you turn into a neocon because you start backing a noble lie. The value of religion is that it organizes folk tales with moral values for people (especially children) who don't have the time, capacity, or maturity to engage in finely tuned philosophy. It is not a justification, in and of itself, for right versus wrong, but rather only an abridged explanation of justification.
No, I don't have any ratings to show if Beck is.....as I was reporting what Scarborough was saying on MSDNC. They never showed any ratings.....just clips of Fox Peeps and those mentioned....plus a couple of others. As for myself, I was glad to see Scarborough and Gergin speak up.....as well as the rest. I also agree with Scarborough on the fact that we do not need the Glen Becks of the Country Leading young Republicans into the future.
 
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Well yea, Scarborough hasn't been fond of Beck for a couple years now.

Beck has energy, but ultimately, he's an entertainer. The problem isn't Beck, but rather the problem is his audience. All Beck does is reflect what his audience believes back at them.

I mean when you read Beck's personal history, it's not really a surprise that he became this way because it is rather traumatic, and many people resort to the same methods of substance abuse, religion, and self-education to cope.

His personality and family... it just fits the paradigm. It's very risky and very confident as well, but it's not independent which is the same as many political pundits, but on top of it not being independent, it's also very radical which means it's difficult to fit in with.

Leadership, by definition, involves rallying people together. He's not a leader. A pioneer, yes, but he's going to burnout eventually if he continues along this path and end up with grumpy old man syndrome.

It kind of epitomizes the function of the Republican Party when you think about it. You have popular hierarchs who sell out a lot of herded underlings, and it's all about telling people what their emotions want to hear. It's not a very thoughtful policy at all. Rather its thoughtfulness is only dedicated to figuring out an appropriate strategy for staying on top.

Unfortunately, Democrats have been aspiring to the same strategy for generations now, especially since the party system switchover since the civil rights movement. Progressivism (remember, progressivism was originally a Republican ideology) is about interfering with this by interjecting government into our daily lives as a substitute for manipulative business and religion, and it coincides with media entertainment and education.

I don't think there's an answer to be quite honest though. If it isn't one institution that controls, it's the other.
 
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Hey MMC
time to remove the chaff from the wheat so to speak......removing or bringing Beck down back to reality can be considered a good thing. We need to get rid of those that divide this country and propagate political policy issues. Could this actually be the start of attempting to clean up the World of Televised Media?
HARD TO DISAGREE !! It is way past time for sane and semi sane to start slapping the insane who spout out crap !!
 
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Well yea, Scarborough hasn't been fond of Beck for a couple years now.

Beck has energy, but ultimately, he's an entertainer. The problem isn't Beck, but rather the problem is his audience. All Beck does is reflect what his audience believes back at them.

I mean when you read Beck's personal history, it's not really a surprise that he became this way because it is rather traumatic, and many people resort to the same methods of substance abuse, religion, and self-education to cope.

His personality and family... it just fits the paradigm. It's very risky and very confident as well, but it's not independent which is the same as many political pundits, but on top of it not being independent, it's also very radical which means it's difficult to fit in with.

Leadership, by definition, involves rallying people together. He's not a leader. A pioneer, yes, but he's going to burnout eventually if he continues along this path and end up with grumpy old man syndrome.

It kind of epitomizes the function of the Republican Party when you think about it. You have popular hierarchs who sell out a lot of herded underlings, and it's all about telling people what their emotions want to hear. It's not a very thoughtful policy at all. Rather its thoughtfulness is only dedicated to figuring out an appropriate strategy for staying on top.

Unfortunately, Democrats have been aspiring to the same strategy for generations now, especially since the party system switchover since the civil rights movement. Progressivism is about interfering with this by interjecting government into our daily lives as a substitute for manipulative business and religion, and it coincides with media entertainment and education.

I don't think there's an answer to be quite honest though. If it isn't one institution that controls, it's the other.
Just becasue Beck like others are entertainers that does not mean that they can spout crap endlessly withouit someone standing up to their BS !! Plus they are actually political issue "entertainers" not "true" entertainers as the idiot bufoon Sheen is. Should Sheen have gotten a free ride for his stupidity just because he is an "real enetrtainer" ???
 
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Babba

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Not only does Beck need to be slapped down by the Repub party but so do some others like Palin and Backmann. They seem to buy in to a lot of Beck's conspiracy theories and that's almost as bad as coming up with the BS in the first place.
 
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Not only does Beck need to be slapped down by the Repub party but so do some others like Palin and Backmann. They seem to buy in to a lot of Beck's conspiracy theories and that's almost as bad as coming up with the BS in the first place.
Agree with your basic premise yet I am wondering if the Palin and the Bachman are just a bit craftier and they are using the comspiracy crap from Back becasue it makes for good raw meet to throw at the base.
 

Babba

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Agree with your basic premise yet I am wondering if the Palin and the Bachman are just a bit craftier and they are using the comspiracy crap from Back becasue it makes for good raw meet to throw at the base.
Partly, but they really do sincerely believe some the dumbest stuff.
 

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Prediction: When/if Glenn Beck's ratings drop to the point he is removed from the air, despite the high ratings he once had it'll be hard to find anyone who admits they ever liked him or watched him.

It'll be like Woodstock, except everyone claiming they never went.
 

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