Just saw my first "We must not allow Socialism" sign

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Have heard they were going to start putting these up all over and running tv ads but hadnt seen them until .yesterday.

Was down in Manchester for a meeting and there was a massive electronic billboard showing Warren and Sanders and a "We must not allow socialism, we are Americans" slogan next to them in big bright lights.

Will it work? Anyone else see new ads or political signs where you live??
 
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No signs here yet, but I certainly agree with the sentiment. We already have a greater degree of socialism than is healthy for a nation founded on freedom and liberty.
 
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Sep 2013
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Have heard they were going to start putting these up all over and running tv ads but hadnt seen them until .yesterday.

Was down in Manchester for a meeting and there was a massive electronic billboard showing Warren and Sanders and a "We must not allow socialism, we are Americans" slogan next to them in big bright lights.

Will it work? Anyone else see new ads or political signs where you live??
The ad campaign takes a cynical attitude about the intelligence of the american voter. I used to think (before the george w election) that people werent as stupid as republicans thought the were - they proved me wrong.

I expect to hear conservatives parroting the very words used in the adds.
 
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Have heard they were going to start putting these up all over and running tv ads but hadnt seen them until .yesterday.

Was down in Manchester for a meeting and there was a massive electronic billboard showing Warren and Sanders and a "We must not allow socialism, we are Americans" slogan next to them in big bright lights.

Will it work? Anyone else see new ads or political signs where you live??
Did those TV ads mention the Socialist Utopia of Venezuela?

They were doing good down there until they ran out of other peoples money...
 
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I prefer the Nordic socialists myself. Their system seems to deliver for the average guy as well as make room for entrepreneurs to become billionaires.
Some countries do OK, some are completely destroyed by Socialism.

Why take the chance?
 

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Some countries do OK, some are completely destroyed by Socialism.

Why take the chance?
Because it's not an all-or-nothing decision. We don't have to become a "socialist country" in order to adopt individual socialistic aspects with a demonstrably provable track record. We already have several socialist programs - and many of them are well-liked, and would be missed if they were suddenly unavailable.
 
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Because it's not an all-or-nothing decision. We don't have to become a "socialist country" in order to adopt individual socialistic aspects with a demonstrably provable track record. We already have several socialist programs - and many of them are well-liked, and would be missed if they were suddenly unavailable.
I know, we have some socialist programs and that's OK.

I just don't think we should go full on crazy with it like some of our presidential candidates want.
 
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Some countries do OK, some are completely destroyed by Socialism.

Why take the chance?
As republicans demand a border wall, and trump attacks the press, and corporation merge eliminating competition, and non-compete agreements limit innovation, I think the danger to our way of life is continuing down the road of ever increasing consolidation of wealth and power.

A sizable portion of the American public wants what the Scandinavians are having.

And conservatives are having a hard time figuring out why they shouldn’t.

After all,

Americans have never shared the right’s enthusiasm for minimizing the tax burden borne by wealthy individuals, or the labor costs of U.S. corporations. Most have always evinced a preference for prioritizing low poverty rates over low top-marginal tax rates, and high wages over high corporate profits. Historically, conservatives compensated for the unpopularity of their economic agenda’s first-order effects by imploring Americans to look at its second-order ones: Low taxes for the rich, little bargaining power for the worker, and scant social benefits for families might sound bad, at first, but they’re a necessary price for the high rates of economic growth and innovation that only America’s “free enterprise” system can produce. (Oh, and all left-wing economic policies lead, inexorably, to gulags.)

But the last half-century hasn’t been kind to the right’s case. Since the Reagan revolution, America has been steadily lowering taxes on the rich and euthanizing private-sector unions — only to experience much lower rates of growth and innovation than it did at the height of New Deal liberalism.

The GOP Can’t Decide if Nordic Socialism Is Totalitarian or Actually Capitalist
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/08/democratic-socialism-nordic-model-conservatives-social-democracy-scandinavia.html

Our system is on the skids, and people are noticing.
 
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Because it's not an all-or-nothing decision. We don't have to become a "socialist country" in order to adopt individual socialistic aspects with a demonstrably provable track record. We already have several socialist programs - and many of them are well-liked, and would be missed if they were suddenly unavailable.
The economic success of the Nordic countries is actually a testament to the vitality of free-market capitalism — because free-market capitalism is (apparently) totally compatible with giant welfare states, nearly universal private-sector unionization, and state-owned oil, telecoms, and financial services companies.

The GOP Can’t Decide if Nordic Socialism Is Totalitarian or Actually Capitalist
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/08/democratic-socialism-nordic-model-conservatives-social-democracy-scandinavia.html