Just saw my first "We must not allow Socialism" sign

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If you aren’t talking to your kids -- even those in elementary school -- about the evils of socialism/communism versus the morality and efficacy of American capitalism, you can be sure someone else is.
 
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Because it's not an all-or-nothing decision. We don't have to become a "socialist country" in order to adopt individual socialistic aspects with a demonstrably provable track record. We already have several socialist programs - and many of them are well-liked, and would be missed if they were suddenly unavailable.
Well...not really. Check the platform of the Democrats, and do the math.
The ONLY way to finance this pie-in-the-sky platform, is to go in whole hog.
Full on Communism. State control of everything, and tax rates that would be insane and nasty.

Fascism is coming to the USA. What are you going to do about it America?
 

raj

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If you aren’t talking to your kids -- even those in elementary school -- about the evils of socialism/communism versus the morality and efficacy of American capitalism, you can be sure someone else is.
Wanna bet?

Maybe inside the home school in your head, but not so much in the real world.
 

Djinn

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Well...not really. Check the platform of the Democrats, and do the math.
The ONLY way to finance this pie-in-the-sky platform, is to go in whole hog.
Full on Communism. State control of everything, and tax rates that would be insane and nasty.

Fascism is coming to the USA. What are you going to do about it America?
Think carefully about what you know about political platforms. For starters, what is the purpose of a political platform? Is it to accurate describe a party's plan-of-action? Or is it more of a marketing tool, designed to appeal to potential voters?

You're not foolish; you know the answer to that one. And when you're trying to appeal to voters, you exaggerate - you tell those demographics what they want to hear, no matter how far-fetched or unrealistic. AOC, for example, knows perfectly well that if she's lucky, she'll see about 20-30% of her goals come to pass in the next two or three decades. If she made her platform more modest and realistic, it would fail to energize voters.

Don't look at the political platform. Look at the actual bills submitted. And even then, discern between the actual bills, and the "submitting this for effect" bills.

As such, I freely acknowledge that the "pie-in-the-sky" platform is unrealistic. But I recognize that such grandiose promises are successful when it comes to energizing voters - no matter how ridiculous they are*.


* "And Mexico will pay for it!"
 
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Davocrat

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Have heard they were going to start putting these up all over and running tv ads but hadnt seen them until .yesterday.

Was down in Manchester for a meeting and there was a massive electronic billboard showing Warren and Sanders and a "We must not allow socialism, we are Americans" slogan next to them in big bright lights.

Will it work? Anyone else see new ads or political signs where you live??
Probably a good sign if you like affordable healthcare, because the currently prevailing policy wonks must be running scared.
 
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Think carefully about what you know about political platforms. For starters, what is the purpose of a political platform? Is it to accurate describe a party's plan-of-action? Or is it more of a marketing tool, designed to appeal to potential voters?

You're not foolish; you know the answer to that one. And when you're trying to appeal to voters, you exaggerate - you tell those demographics what they want to hear, no matter how far-fetched or unrealistic. AOC, for example, knows perfectly well that if she's lucky, she'll see about 20-30% of her goals come to pass in the next two or three decades. If she made her platform more modest and realistic, it would fail to energize voters.

Don't look at the political platform. Look at the actual bills submitted. And even then, discern between the actual bills, and the "submitting this for effect" bills.

As such, I freely acknowledge that the "pie-in-the-sky" platform is unrealistic. But I recognize that such grandiose promises are successful when it comes to energizing voters - no matter how ridiculous they are*.


* "And Mexico will pay for it!"
Their entire platform is pie-in-the-sky.
ALL OF IT!
At least Trump is making good on most of his campaign promises.
 
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Yeah, at the barrel of a gun. Sorry, but I don't trust the Government to effectively run a lemonade stand, let alone take over all means of production which is what Leftists want.
I know right, just look how fucked up the US military works, can't trust them worth a damn. They men and women of the military can't protect a lemonade stand. You sure you wanna double down on that?
 
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That will explain why the top ten happiest countries are all democratic socialist. The USA dropped from 18 to 19th.
Now look here, the USA doesn't just want to be equal to the top countries, they want to stand out at the bottom.
 

boontito

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Haven't seen any dire warning of socialism signs yet. Did see my first Trump commercial of the election season last night and it was pretty funny. Be afraid! Be VERY afraid!