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Whoa, Kansas elected a Dem (woman) Governor over a White nationalist. I guess given the choice of left or hate, any region can make a switch. Be interested in what my buddy who lives in Kansas has to say. Any of you morons live in Kansas?
 

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Moron here. In the style of Inigo Montoya, I do not think this is as remarkable as you think it is.

Here's basically how this happened:

1) When neither contender for governor is a sitting governor, Kansas almost always elects the party currently out of power.

2) The past Republican governor, Sam Brownback, is universally considered a failure who had to be bailed out of his job by President Donald Trump, into a cushy State Department "religious freedom" ambassadorship, where he has virtually no power and does nothing of any significance.

3) Per the original plan, this would place then Lt. Gov. Jeff Colyer into office as Governor. He wold immediately run to the center and set himself up as a new kind of Kansas Republican, who honors conservative values but will work first and foremost for the good of the state. Donald Trump seemed to be on board with this.

4) Brownback, because he is a total fuckstick, refused to resign as governor until confirmation. Because the ambassadorship is such a pointless joke, the Senate placed him far down the calendar, and eventually the nomination lapsed. Trump had to re-nominate Brownback, a rare and embarrassing occurrence with the same party in control of a filibuster-proof Senate and the White House.

5) As a result, Colyer couldn't take office until January 2018, allowing for no time to accomplish things as governor that are distinctly his. It got so awkward that Brownback ended up delivering the State of the State address, which bipartisan observers — even some conservatives — universally panned as pointless and out of touch. Colyer took office at the end of the month when the confirmation at last went through, and hastily delivered a new State of the State address.

6) Amid all of this, Secretary of State Kris Kobach decided to exploit the situation and unexpectedly challenge Colyer. Kobach had been a top recruit to run for the U.S. House of Representatives in the Second U.S. Congressional District. He probably would have won; political novice Steve Watkins just did.

7) Most state Republicans backed Colyer and turned on Kobach as an interloper. The NRA ended up endorsing Colyer. But Kobach's allies, chiefly Donald Trump Jr. and Wichita right-wing ultra-rich businessman Wink Hartman, who also challenged Colyer but quickly bowed out to become Kobach's financier/running mate, made for a real contest. Kobach eventually won just enough votes to prevail in August.

There are still plenty of Republicans who are raw about this. Kobach appointed the Johnson County chief of elections. It's a state responsibility because Johnson County is growing like a wildfire and there'd be no way for the county government to run the show on its own. Too many people. Johnson County is also the only county to use an all-electronic voting machine system with no paper trail. Late in the evening on Aug. 7, their machines went down and didn't function for several hours. Kobach ended up doing better there than expected and this enabled his narrow victory.

8) Though President Trump had played ball with the plan to install Colyer up til August, he suddenly and inexplicably tweeted an endorsement for Kobach at the end of July. Off the record, Kansas Republican officials hate his guts for this, and consider Trump to be an irredeemable idiot. They had the data to show that Kobach would probably lose to Democrat Laura Kelly, come what may. It ended up being closer than expected, as it always is, but Kelly still prevailed early in the evening. Kobach is unpopular and he has a well-established reputation as an extremist partisan hack, the opposite of Kansas nice.

So here we are.
 
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Moron here. In the style of Inigo Montoya, I do not think this is as remarkable as you think it is.

Here's basically how this happened:

1) When neither contender for governor is a sitting governor, Kansas almost always elects the party currently out of power.

2) The past Republican governor, Sam Brownback, is universally considered a failure who had to be bailed out of his job by President Donald Trump, into a cushy State Department "religious freedom" ambassadorship, where he has virtually no power and does nothing of any significance.

3) Per the original plan, this would place then Lt. Gov. Jeff Colyer into office as Governor. He wold immediately run to the center and set himself up as a new kind of Kansas Republican, who honors conservative values but will work first and foremost for the good of the state. Donald Trump seemed to be on board with this.

4) Brownback, because he is a total fuckstick, refused to resign as governor until confirmation. Because the ambassadorship is such a pointless joke, the Senate placed him far down the calendar, and eventually the nomination lapsed. Trump had to re-nominate Brownback, a rare and embarrassing occurrence with the same party in control of a filibuster-proof Senate and the White House.

5) As a result, Colyer couldn't take office until January 2018, allowing for no time to accomplish things as governor that are distinctly his. It got so awkward that Brownback ended up delivering the State of the State address, which bipartisan observers — even some conservatives — universally panned as pointless and out of touch. Colyer took office at the end of the month when the confirmation at last went through, and hastily delivered a new State of the State address.

6) Amid all of this, Secretary of State Kris Kobach decided to exploit the situation and unexpectedly challenge Colyer. Kobach had been a top recruit to run for the U.S. House of Representatives in the Second U.S. Congressional District. He probably would have won; political novice Steve Watkins just did.

7) Most state Republicans backed Colyer and turned on Kobach as an interloper. The NRA ended up endorsing Colyer. But Kobach's allies, chiefly Donald Trump Jr. and Wichita right-wing ultra-rich businessman Wink Hartman, who also challenged Colyer but quickly bowed out to become Kobach's financier/running mate, made for a real contest. Kobach eventually won just enough votes to prevail in August.

There are still plenty of Republicans who are raw about this. Kobach appointed the Johnson County chief of elections. It's a state responsibility because Johnson County is growing like a wildfire and there'd be no way for the county government to run the show on its own. Too many people. Johnson County is also the only county to use an all-electronic voting machine system with no paper trail. Late in the evening on Aug. 7, their machines went down and didn't function for several hours. Kobach ended up doing better there than expected and this enabled his narrow victory.

8) Though President Trump had played ball with the plan to install Colyer up til August, he suddenly and inexplicably tweeted an endorsement for Kobach at the end of July. Off the record, Kansas Republican officials hate his guts for this, and consider Trump to be an irredeemable idiot. They had the data to show that Kobach would probably lose to Democrat Laura Kelly, come what may. It ended up being closer than expected, as it always is, but Kelly still prevailed early in the evening. Kobach is unpopular and he has a well-established reputation as an extremist partisan hack, the opposite of Kansas nice.

So here we are.
John Brown's body must be rollin' in the grave!
 
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Singularity

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John Brown's body must be rollin' in the grave!
Here's "Tragic Prelude," by muralist John Steuart. It fills a gigantic wall at the Kansas Statehouse, the capitol building. This print doesn't do it justice, you can stare at it for hours. The Statehouse is considered one of the most finely decorated state government buildings in the country after multi-million-dollar renovations in the last 10 years.



That's John Brown. You'll notice how his boot is on a dead Confederate soldier's neck.
 
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Here's "Tragic Prelude," by muralist John Steuart. It fills a gigantic wall at the Kansas Statehouse, the capitol building. This print doesn't do it justice, you can stare at it for hours. The Statehouse is considered one of the most finely decorated state government buildings in the country after multi-million-dollar renovations in the last 10 years.



That's John Brown. You'll notice how his boot is on a dead Confederate soldier's neck.
Oh, I know ALL about that painting! Not only does my friend who lives in Kansas visit it on occasion, it was the album cover of my favorite band of all time's first album in 1974! Interesting story how that came about when the band was thinking of a cover for their first album. But anyway, here's my favorite song off of that album - they were flown off to NYC in a big hurry by Don Kirshner who discovered them, given two weeks in a studio on equipment and instruments that weren't even THEIRS! All these years later, my boys are still out there touring and making albums - last saw them two years ago.

 
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Singularity

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What's that in his hand ? A dictionary ?
For Brown, a Calvinist, his whole shtick was to counter the dominant (not universal) view among Southern Baptists at the time that while newly enslaving human beings was wrong, anyone born into slavery had been given their lot in life by God, and had a religious obligation to serve the masters God had appointed over them (Of course, slavers themselves conveniently set aside this view on disregarding the rights of freedmen and in freely trading slaves to NEW masters).

By putting a Bible in one hand and a rifle in the other, the artist represents Brown's counter to that argument, that all slavery is in fact a sin against God, and in order to stop it, God entrusts those willing to do violence by whatever means are available.
 
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For Brown, a Calvinist, his whole shtick was to counter the dominant (not universal) view among Southern Baptists at the time that while newly enslaving human beings was wrong, anyone born into slavery had been given their lot in life by God, and had a religious obligation to serve the masters God had appointed over them (Of course, slavers themselves conveniently set aside this view on disregarding the rights of freedmen and in freely trading slaves to NEW masters).

By putting a Bible in one hand and a rifle in the other, the artist represents Brown's counter to that argument, that all slavery is in fact a sin against God, and in order to stop it, God entrusts those willing to do violence by whatever means are available.
When I was a Civil War reenactor, I did a living history at the Kennedy Farm in Maryland where Brown and his men stayed a couple months before launching his raid on Harper's Ferry just a few miles away. Both spots I've been to many times and it's really worth the trip if you get the chance, Harper's being a National Park. One building in Harper's Ferry has a replica painting of the one above. Brown, before being hung, said that the "sins" of this guilty nation will only be purged with blood, the sin of slavery. Of course, he was right.
 

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