Male teacher fired for refusing to watch biological girl student shower

Feb 2011
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It appears this may be a legitimate story despite having been reported in the World Net Daily. Here's a page from the Chasco Middle School Facebook, describing the same thing and linking to yet another report about the same thing.

Having done a fairly thorough and totally based on skepticism Google search, I couldn't come up with anything to show that the story is faked.

The school has to allow a girl to shower with the boys, and the teachers, male teachers mind you, have to watch? How is that not insanity? Let's hope that the teachers involved have good, strong union backing.
 
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Djinn

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#82
It appears this may be a legitimate story despite having been reported in the World Net Daily. Here's a page from the Chasco Middle School Facebook, describing the same thing and linking to yet another report about the same thing. ...
Based on the complaint itself - the teacher is in the wrong. Teachers are responsible for the safety of students - all students. Under normal circumstances, the gym teacher is supposed to ensure the safety of the students in the locker room. And now - the teacher is expected to CONTINUE to ensure the safety of the students in the locker room. Nothing has changed, except now there is one transgender student among them.

Presumably, this teacher wasn't ogling the boys in the shower - and gave them a measure of privacy as safety would allow. The presence of a transgender student doesn't change this. If the teacher was permitted to stay out of the locker room when the transgender student was present, and an unsupervised student in the locker room was victimized (or simply injured in an accident), then the school would be at-fault for creating an at-risk situation.
 
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#83
It appears this may be a legitimate story despite having been reported in the World Net Daily. Here's a page from the Chasco Middle School Facebook, describing the same thing and linking to yet another report about the same thing.

Having done a fairly thorough and totally based on skepticism Google search, I couldn't come up with anything to show that the story is faked.

The school has to allow a girl to shower with the boys, and the teachers, male teachers mind you, have to watch? How is that not insanity? Let's hope that the teachers involved have good, strong union backing.
8 fucking pages.

8 pages where "debate" was "WND is a small dick source, look at my big dick source that says it doesn't exist"

Fucking childish.

So, 8 pages in, how many of the people that play whose "source" is "bigger" going to come back and finally say that this situation is wrong?

None? 1?
 
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Djinn

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#84
8 fucking pages.
8 pages where "debate" was "WND is a small dick source, look at my big dick source that says it doesn't exist"
Fucking childish.
So, 8 pages in, how many of the people that play whose "source" is "bigger" going to come back and finally say that this situation is wrong?
None? 1?
Because it's not wrong. The school is responsible for protecting students. Not finding excuses to put them at risk.
 
Oct 2014
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#85
Based on the complaint itself - the teacher is in the wrong. Teachers are responsible for the safety of students - all students. Under normal circumstances, the gym teacher is supposed to ensure the safety of the students in the locker room. And now - the teacher is expected to CONTINUE to ensure the safety of the students in the locker room. Nothing has changed, except now there is one transgender student among them.

Presumably, this teacher wasn't ogling the boys in the shower - and gave them a measure of privacy as safety would allow. The presence of a transgender student doesn't change this. If the teacher was permitted to stay out of the locker room when the transgender student was present, and an unsupervised student in the locker room was victimized (or simply injured in an accident), then the school would be at-fault for creating an at-risk situation.
Why am I not surprised that some would defend the fucking pedos? Every thread it comes up there's always at least 1.
 
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#87
Ms. Blueneck,

How's that sand that you are burying your head in? Warm enough?

Religious rights group protests Pasco’s treatment of transgender students
Did you even read your source material?


How is your source material anywhere close to the bullshit the op is pushing?

Your materiel has the religious group questioning a proposed action plan.

The OPs material has a teacher already fired for refusing to watch a little girl shower.

Was the teacher fired for not watching the little girl shower or not....
 
Feb 2011
14,232
8,911
The formerly great golden state
#88
Based on the complaint itself - the teacher is in the wrong. Teachers are responsible for the safety of students - all students. Under normal circumstances, the gym teacher is supposed to ensure the safety of the students in the locker room. And now - the teacher is expected to CONTINUE to ensure the safety of the students in the locker room. Nothing has changed, except now there is one transgender student among them.

Presumably, this teacher wasn't ogling the boys in the shower - and gave them a measure of privacy as safety would allow. The presence of a transgender student doesn't change this. If the teacher was permitted to stay out of the locker room when the transgender student was present, and an unsupervised student in the locker room was victimized (or simply injured in an accident), then the school would be at-fault for creating an at-risk situation.
and requiring a male teacher to supervise a female teenager in the shower is putting him in an untenable position. If he doesn't supervise her, he's failing to do his job. If he does, he's watching a female student in a state of undress. It's a lose/lose proposition for the teacher.
 

Rasselas

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#89
When Liberals cry about the source it because they can't defend the actions.
Actually, the problem isn't that we can't defend the actions--we don't know what the actions WERE exactly. It's only been reported in one source and that source is pretty suspect. Did this source speak to the school? Is there a school policy of some sort? On what basis did the school make such a decision? Florida is a state with unionized teachers--what does the union say about someone being fired under a suspect policy? I'd like to know more about what happened before I comment.
 

Rasselas

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Feb 2010
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#90
Honestly, the best source for stuff like this usually the local newspaper. Land O Lakes is a suburb of Tampa, so here is a story from the Tampa Bay Times: Religious rights group protests Pasco’s treatment of transgender students

It gives information the other stories do not, including the full names of the teachers: Stephanie Christensen and Robert Oppedisano. It quotes the transgender students' parents. It gives background about other transgender issues at this school district and in the local area.

This seems like a key passage:
District employee relations director Kathy Scalise said the employees were reminded of their responsibilities. "But have we threatened them with their jobs? Absolutely not."

School Board attorney Dennis Alfonso said he received a letter from the Liberty Counsel in late September outlining the concerns. He responded that he would consult federal law, rule and court precedent to ensure the district was acting appropriately.
 
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