Mueller to explain fisa abuses

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And then this out of Ohr's testimony before congress

Here is Ohr’s specific testimony to the joint House Judiciary and Oversight and Government Reform Committees that was elicited behind closed doors last Aug. 28, but that has not been fully made public:

Question: “So, the record is clear, what the Department of Justice and the FBI was aware of prior to the first FISA application was your relationship with Christopher Steele and Glenn Simpson, your wife’s relationship with Christopher Steele and Glenn Simpson, Mr. Steele’s bias against Donald Trump, Mr. Simpson’s bias against Donald Trump, your wife’s compensation for work for Glenn Simpson and Fusion GPS, correct?”

Ohr: “Correct.”

Ohr later added: “I told them that Chris Steele was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected.”

Ohr also told congressional investigators that he knew the entire effort to target Trump was being financially underwritten by the Clinton presidential campaign. The FBI and Justice Department knew this, too.

Ohr said he warned the two law enforcement agencies: “You’re going to have to check it out and be aware. These guys were hired by somebody relating to – who’s related to the Clinton campaign, and be aware.”
Are you just going to spit out more silly posts (based on what, two year old testimony?) without thinking first?

I hate to break the news to you, aside from the fact quite a bit about the dossier is being confirmed, we don't know what Mueller's got out of it because he hasn't released his findings yet.
 
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I certainlly would not use anything from NBC
Of course not!


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They're not a foaming at the mouth conspiracy laden fake news site like the ones you use.
 
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You have to prove something is true first. That's how it works and you seem rather confused.
No one had to prove that the dossier was factual. You are the one saying that it has been debunked or whatever. It was not the only reason for the warrant, you just think that it is. Carter Page was a rather obvious suspect and he was certainly guilty of lying.
 
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No one had to prove that the dossier was factual. You are the one saying that it has been debunked or whatever. It was not the only reason for the warrant, you just think that it is. Carter Page was a rather obvious suspect and he was certainly guilty of lying.
You sure do. That is a requirement of a fisa warrant. And do you just make crap up. He has not been found guilty of anything. In fact, he has never been indicted. So time to crawl back in your hole
 
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You sure do. That is a requirement of a fisa warrant. And do you just make crap up. He has not been found guilty of anything. In fact, he has never been indicted. So time to crawl back in your hole
You don't "prove guilt" when getting a warrant - all you need to do is to show cause. FISA warrants are a little more involved, but it's still a lower bar than to empirically prove that a crime has been committed.

After months of public denials, Carter Page admits he told Trump officials about meeting with Russians
Page was questioned by congressional investigators about his 2016 trip to Moscow

Trump campaign foreign policy adviser Carter Page told the House Intelligence Committee last week that he alerted several top Trump campaign officials about a planned trip to Moscow in July of 2016 and notified others when he returned.

Page said he informed campaign adviser J.D. Gordon, then-campaign manager Corey Lewandowski and Trump aide Hope Hicks over email about a trip to speak at a university, according to a transcript of the interview released by the committee Monday evening.

In January, Page told ABC News that he spoke “not one word” to anyone from the Kremlin during the trip, and then in April, he acknowledged only that he “said hello briefly to one individual, who was a board member of the New Economic School where I gave my speech.”

He denied contacts for months and then finally fessed up to Congress. That's OK with you, though, because he was not convicted of a crime? That's pretty week. Who made crap up? No, I want to hear about that.

Crawl back into my hole? That's a laugh, I'm not that one pretending to be someone else.
 
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WASHINGTON AND THE WORLD
Why Carter Page Was Worth Watching
There’s plenty of evidence that the former Trump campaign adviser, for all his quirks, was on suspiciously good terms with Russia.

By LUKE HARDING
February 03, 2018
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Luke Harding is a foreign correspondent at the Guardian. Excerpted from the book Collusion: Secret Meetings, Dirty Money, and How Russia Helped Donald Trump Win published by Vintage Books, an imprint of The Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group, a division of Penguin Random House LLC. Copyright 2017 by Luke Harding.

On Friday, Washington was convulsed by a contentious four-page document: the Nunes memo. The memo, according to its putative author, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Devin Nunes, revealed unprecedented abuses by the FBI and Justice Department. The counterview: That Nunes’ memo was a misleading, partisan and shoddy piece of work. In this second reading, the purpose of the memo was to offer succor to President Donald Trump and to discredit the investigation into Trump, Russia and collusion led by special counsel Robert Mueller.

Most remarkable was the unlikely hero at the center of this national row, Carter Page. The memo alleged that the bureau bugged his communications after deliberately duping the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. Not only that but using supposedly flawed material supplied by Christopher Steele, the former British intelligence officer whose dossier accused Trump of consorting with Russian president and former KGB operative Vladimir Putin. But who exactly was Carter Page? And were there, in fact, genuine reasons why the FBI might have ground for suspecting him?
 
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