Muslim Nations Silent on China's Abuse of Uighers

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"Official documents leaked to The New York Times and the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists have detailed a systematic Chinese policy of mass internment in Xinjiang.

In response to the extraordinary revelations about China’s programme of “re-education” camps for Uighur Muslims over recent weeks, member states of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation have stayed silent.

“Sorry, but I do not wish you a good Ramadan,” wrote the head of the Uighur Institute of Europe in Paris, in a cri de coeur railing against Muslim countries’ indifference to the plight of Uighurs in China’s far-western Xinjiang region, published by French weekly L’Obs in May.

In November, Dilnur Reyhan furthered this message in an open letter to Emmanuel Macron ahead of the French president’s trip to Beijing, co-written by the essayist and MEP Raphaël Glucksmann published in the left-wing French paper Libération. “Great crimes feed on silence,” she asserted: “The Uighurs have fallen into a kind of black hole – a legal black hole in China.”

A form of “black hole politics” is operating in the world, the open letter continued: the Uighurs are “barely mentioned in our countries’ exchanges with Chinese leaders”

After the publication of troves of official documents leaked to The New York Times and the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, outlining a systematic policy of mass internment in Xinjiang, Muslim countries have shied away from supporting the Uighurs.

There is a dividing line at the UN between defenders and critics of the Chinese state’s actions in Xinjiang. At the end of October, 23 countries including France, the UK and the US denounced the repression of the Uighurs at the UN Committee on Social, Humanitarian and Cultural Affairs. Nevertheless, Beijing won the support of 54 countries, who praised the Communist Party’s management of Xinjiang.

A similar thing happened in July: 22 states called on China to put a stop to arbitrary detention in the province. Then 37 countries rushed to Beijing’s defence, praising its “remarkable achievements in the field of human rights”. Amongst them were 14 members of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) – including Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan, the UAE, Qatar and Algeria.

In 2017, the OIC responded very differently to the Myanmar military’s crackdown on the country’s Rohingyas. Many Muslim countries – including Saudi Arabia, Iran and Turkey – rallied to the defence of the Muslim minority group in Myanmar. Indeed, the OIC took an active role in condemning the treatment of the Rohingyas at the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva.

By contrast, the last OIC statement on the Uighurs dates back to a simple communiqué in 2015, in which the 57-member group of Muslim countries said it was “concerned” about whether they would be able to celebrate Ramadan.

“There is less solidarity than there is for the Palestinian or Rohingya causes,” noted Sophie Richardson, director for China at Human Rights Watch. “China has managed to win these countries’ support because they need Chinese investment.”

Saudi Arabia demonstrated this in February, expressing its “respect” for Chinese leader Xi Jinping before signing major commercial contracts. Egypt, which wants Beijing to finance its infrastructure, went so far as to allow Chinese police to come and interrogate Uighur exiles on its soil in 2017. Even Pakistan – which has spoken out for the Rohingyas with particular alacrity – has been silent on the Uighurs while the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative proceeds in the country.

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Some humans really, truly suck. I fear China is planning to genocide these people.

Your thoughts?
 
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"Official documents leaked to The New York Times and the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists have detailed a systematic Chinese policy of mass internment in Xinjiang.

In response to the extraordinary revelations about China’s programme of “re-education” camps for Uighur Muslims over recent weeks, member states of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation have stayed silent.

“Sorry, but I do not wish you a good Ramadan,” wrote the head of the Uighur Institute of Europe in Paris, in a cri de coeur railing against Muslim countries’ indifference to the plight of Uighurs in China’s far-western Xinjiang region, published by French weekly L’Obs in May.

In November, Dilnur Reyhan furthered this message in an open letter to Emmanuel Macron ahead of the French president’s trip to Beijing, co-written by the essayist and MEP Raphaël Glucksmann published in the left-wing French paper Libération. “Great crimes feed on silence,” she asserted: “The Uighurs have fallen into a kind of black hole – a legal black hole in China.”

A form of “black hole politics” is operating in the world, the open letter continued: the Uighurs are “barely mentioned in our countries’ exchanges with Chinese leaders”

After the publication of troves of official documents leaked to The New York Times and the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, outlining a systematic policy of mass internment in Xinjiang, Muslim countries have shied away from supporting the Uighurs.

There is a dividing line at the UN between defenders and critics of the Chinese state’s actions in Xinjiang. At the end of October, 23 countries including France, the UK and the US denounced the repression of the Uighurs at the UN Committee on Social, Humanitarian and Cultural Affairs. Nevertheless, Beijing won the support of 54 countries, who praised the Communist Party’s management of Xinjiang.

A similar thing happened in July: 22 states called on China to put a stop to arbitrary detention in the province. Then 37 countries rushed to Beijing’s defence, praising its “remarkable achievements in the field of human rights”. Amongst them were 14 members of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) – including Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan, the UAE, Qatar and Algeria.

In 2017, the OIC responded very differently to the Myanmar military’s crackdown on the country’s Rohingyas. Many Muslim countries – including Saudi Arabia, Iran and Turkey – rallied to the defence of the Muslim minority group in Myanmar. Indeed, the OIC took an active role in condemning the treatment of the Rohingyas at the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva.

By contrast, the last OIC statement on the Uighurs dates back to a simple communiqué in 2015, in which the 57-member group of Muslim countries said it was “concerned” about whether they would be able to celebrate Ramadan.

“There is less solidarity than there is for the Palestinian or Rohingya causes,” noted Sophie Richardson, director for China at Human Rights Watch. “China has managed to win these countries’ support because they need Chinese investment.”

Saudi Arabia demonstrated this in February, expressing its “respect” for Chinese leader Xi Jinping before signing major commercial contracts. Egypt, which wants Beijing to finance its infrastructure, went so far as to allow Chinese police to come and interrogate Uighur exiles on its soil in 2017. Even Pakistan – which has spoken out for the Rohingyas with particular alacrity – has been silent on the Uighurs while the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative proceeds in the country.

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Some humans really, truly suck. I fear China is planning to genocide these people.

Your thoughts?
I dont see any country, including our own that arent violating human rights themselves!

We have another thread on here about thanksgiving, but many seem to forget that we are actually celebrating a genocide of the native population of this country.

The US has been killing people and bombing nations for decades now....muslim nations. Europeans have done more global genocide than any group I can think of historically. Australia, Canada and the US.....all major nations built on the genocide of the native populations by Europeans. Nevermind all the mass slaughter we designed throughout the latin american region....the colonization by nations like France of Haiti etc.

The US just blatantly stole Hawaii with total disregard for its native population....we dont we return them to their rightful owners and give them stewardship over their own nation?

I do think we should speak up and what China is doing is heinous, but not one of those "silent" nations are doing any better, they are all engaging in mass violation of human rights themselves as well!

Maybe if we truly and sincerely started cleaning our own act up, maybe then we could be more effective in getting others to head in that direction too. But thusfar, the sociopaths always rise to the top and we let them.
 
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Its amazing seeing the very first reply to this thread, attacking the US....


I started a similar thread, but no one seems to care about this particular genocide.


The idea we cant stand up for injustice because of past injustices we had no personal part of is insanity...
 
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I dont see any country, including our own that arent violating human rights themselves!

We have another thread on here about thanksgiving, but many seem to forget that we are actually celebrating a genocide of the native population of this country.

The US has been killing people and bombing nations for decades now....muslim nations. Europeans have done more global genocide than any group I can think of historically. Australia, Canada and the US.....all major nations built on the genocide of the native populations by Europeans. Nevermind all the mass slaughter we designed throughout the latin american region....the colonization by nations like France of Haiti etc.

The US just blatantly stole Hawaii with total disregard for its native population....we dont we return them to their rightful owners and give them stewardship over their own nation?

I do think we should speak up and what China is doing is heinous, but not one of those "silent" nations are doing any better, they are all engaging in mass violation of human rights themselves as well!

Maybe if we truly and sincerely started cleaning our own act up, maybe then we could be more effective in getting others to head in that direction too. But thusfar, the sociopaths always rise to the top and we let them.
Some countries have cops shooting unarmed black men. Some countries commit genocide. Who's to say which one is worse? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Its amazing seeing the very first reply to this thread, attacking the US....


I started a similar thread, but no one seems to care about this particular genocide.


The idea we cant stand up for injustice because of past injustices we had no personal part of is insanity...
That is exactly who the Left is.

I would have not expected anything different.
 

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I dont see any country, including our own that arent violating human rights themselves!

We have another thread on here about thanksgiving, but many seem to forget that we are actually celebrating a genocide of the native population of this country.

The US has been killing people and bombing nations for decades now....muslim nations. Europeans have done more global genocide than any group I can think of historically. Australia, Canada and the US.....all major nations built on the genocide of the native populations by Europeans. Nevermind all the mass slaughter we designed throughout the latin american region....the colonization by nations like France of Haiti etc.

The US just blatantly stole Hawaii with total disregard for its native population....we dont we return them to their rightful owners and give them stewardship over their own nation?

I do think we should speak up and what China is doing is heinous, but not one of those "silent" nations are doing any better, they are all engaging in mass violation of human rights themselves as well!

Maybe if we truly and sincerely started cleaning our own act up, maybe then we could be more effective in getting others to head in that direction too. But thusfar, the sociopaths always rise to the top and we let them.
Look...

With all due respect...

If I see my neighbor beating the hell out of his wife, you think my thoughts should be "Well, my dad was a violent bastard to me and my siblings, as a kid, too; so who the hell am I to intervene/say/do something about this?", honestly?

If anything, having such experience makes one a BETTER authority to speak out against such shit happening NOW...
 
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Look...

With all due respect...

If I see my neighbor beating the hell out of his wife, you think my thoughts should be "Well, my dad was a violent bastard to me and my siblings, as a kid, too; so who the hell am I to intervene/say/do something about this?", honestly?

If anything, having such experience makes one a BETTER authority to speak out against such shit happening NOW...
If you are beating your own wife but speaking out about how bad your neighbor is for doing the same to his wife, you words will ring hollow.

The US is currently and actively still bombing people around the world....this isnt our dark past, its our PRESENT actions...just like those other nations you named..which one of them actually behave better in regards to human rights now?

There is a ton of heinous shit going on all over this planet and we are real busy telling OTHERS what they do wrong, we arent as quick to fix what WE ARE DOING wrong though.....so it all seems like a bit of a game of "look over there and minimize our own wrong doings".

What do you think we should do?
 
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We didnt commit genocide?
Nope. Never did. What happened over 100 years ago has nothing to do with those living NOW. Except as Historical facts that should be taught in SCHOOL. This concept of "Original Sin" does not fly.