New York lawmakers pass bill aimed at weakening Trump's pardon power

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New York lawmakers pass bill aimed at weakening Trump's pardon power
The measure, which creates a narrow exception to the state's double jeopardy law, now goes to Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo's desk.
By Allan Smith

"New York state lawmakers passed a measure Tuesday that would allow prosecutors to pursue state charges against certain individuals even if they have received a presidential pardon, a move seen as a direct shot at President Donald Trump."
"New York's state Assembly passed the measure — which creates a narrow exception in the state's double-jeopardy law — by a 90-52 vote. New York law currently prohibits the state from prosecuting a person who has already been tried for the same crime by the federal government. The bill would make it easier for prosecutors in certain circumstances to pursue a case against someone who has received a presidential pardon for the federal conviction."
"With the President all but pledging to corruptly abuse his pardon power to allow friends and associates off the hook, it is crucial for us to close the double jeopardy loophole and preserve the rule of law in New York," Kaminsky said."











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That is a very good law whose time has come. It will apply equally to both Republican and Democratic Presidents. New York's Governor will sign the bill into law shortly.
 
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In the end this bill will not withstand judicial scrutiny. But we see how lawless Democrats are, and how they care nothing about the rule of law. They hate the nation as founded, they hate the state and federal Constitution's.
 
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In the end this bill will not withstand judicial scrutiny. But we see how lawless Democrats are, and how they care nothing about the rule of law. They hate the nation as founded, they hate the state and federal Constitution's.
Not. What they hate is blind partisanship in favor of those closer to the man in the White House and not allowing certain people to testify before House Committees that officially summons them. But that is what those Committees are charged in doing under the law. The nation's chief executive should not therefore stand in the way. I can remember a time when Republicans were all for STATE'S RIGHTS and sovereign power for them to pass their own laws. Guess it all depends on what law is passed and how it will affect members of the right-wing political party, huh? ;) But for those Republicans against this bill that is soon to become law in New York I guess they don't like the idea of Democratic Presidents being subjected to the same scrutiny as the new law would provide for. It's good to learn that right-wingers would therefore also want to shield Democrats from being penalized for issuing what might be considered questionable pardons once they're in office again.
 
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Laws aimed at certain people are unconstitutional. The left doesn't care, they're running on the fumes of TDS and headed for a breakdown.
 
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New York lawmakers pass bill aimed at weakening Trump's pardon power
The measure, which creates a narrow exception to the state's double jeopardy law, now goes to Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo's desk.
By Allan Smith



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That is a very good law whose time has come. It will apply equally to both Republican and Democratic Presidents. New York's Governor will sign the bill into law shortly.
It's very important to realize that IVANKA, JARED and TRUMP himself will be under the purview of this new law. Remember when he said out loud, well I guess I can pardon myself. NFW he would pardon Cohen. Cohen could turn into worm food before Trump would pardon him. All NEW YORKERS.
 
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In the end this bill will not withstand judicial scrutiny. But we see how lawless Democrats are, and how they care nothing about the rule of law. They hate the nation as founded, they hate the state and federal Constitution's.
Did you type that with a straight face? The trump administration is straight up ignoring the law and refusing to comply with any subpoenas. That is lawlessness. And you make nonsense excuses because YOU don’t care about the rule of law. You only care about protecting the president.


Specifically, what part of this law is it you think is “lawless”? You yourself just stated that there are federal and state constitutions. Trump has pardon power over federal crimes. He does not have pardon power over the state. The states are absolutely within their rights. It’s pretty hard to say that changes an existing law is against the constitution. I mean, they had to pass the original law in the first place....

TLDR: your argument makes no sense
 
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In the end this bill will not withstand judicial scrutiny. But we see how lawless Democrats are, and how they care nothing about the rule of law. They hate the nation as founded, they hate the state and federal Constitution's.
Did you type that with a straight face? The trump administration is straight up ignoring the law and refusing to comply with any subpoenas. That is lawlessness. And you make nonsense excuses because YOU don’t care about the rule of law. You only care about protecting the president.


Specifically, what part of this law is it you think is “lawless”? You yourself just stated that there are federal and state constitutions. Trump has pardon power over federal crimes. He does not have pardon power over the state. The states are absolutely within their rights. It’s pretty hard to say that changes an existing law is against the constitution. I mean, they had to pass the original law in the first place....

TLDR: your argument makes no sense
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WAIT!! There's more from New York state.
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N.Y. lawmakers pass bill to allow Congress access to Trump's state tax returns

Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo is expected to sign the legislation.

May 22, 2019, 12:20 PM CDT
By Allan Smith

The New York state Assembly passed legislation Wednesday to give Congress access to President Donald Trump's state tax returns.

Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo is expected to sign the bill, which passed the state Senate earlier this month.

The legislation, which passed 84 to 53, would amend New York law to permit the commissioner of the state Department of Taxation and Finance to release the state tax returns of those in federal, state and local elected or higher-level public offices, along with entities those people control or have a large stake in, that are requested by the leaders of congressional tax-writing committees.

Existing laws generally prohibit such a release, and those congressional panels — the House Ways and Means Committee, the Senate Finance Committee and the Joint Committee on Taxation — could file a request with the state only after efforts to gain access to federal tax filings through the Treasury Department failed.

"Secrecy in government breeds corruption," Thomas Abinanti, a Democratic assemblyman, said as the legislation was being debated, adding that Trump has "intentionally and publicly thwarted the legitimate and necessary oversight of Congress."

"Congress must guarantee that no government official is selling government policy for personal gain," he said.

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