NPD mayor elected in Germany

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The small, German village of Walsiedlung has elected a new mayor, a man named Stefan Jagsch. Normally, such an event would not merit reporting on the State level, but this time it's made international news.

The reason is the political affiliation of the new mayor. He's a member of the NPD. For those unfamiliar with German politics, the NPD's political ideology can be made clear by noting their reaction to Obama's election back on 2008. They published a leaflet titled 'Africa conquers America', which described his victory as being brought about by an alliance of Jews and Negroes as part of their assault on the white race.

What makes the story particularly bizarre is that he was unanimously elected (by the local council members, that is, the mayor is not directly elected), on the basis that no one else wanted the job. Some of them may fave expulsion from their own parties as a result, for violating strict policies against cooperating with Nazis.

This includes the Social Democratic councillor, Ali Riza Agdas. He noted that he'd known Jagsch for years and did not have a problem with him. While Jagsch may well be a nice guy, if my name were Ali I might nevertheless have concerns about his membership in a party which has campaigned for people of Turkish ancestry to be removed from Germany.
 
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Their is a certain group of people that Nazism appeals too deeply. It is something in human nature...
 
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Their is a certain group of people that Nazism appeals too deeply. It is something in human nature...
But the few dozen people who elected the Nazi to the council is not the weird part of this story. The weird part is that the conservative, socialist and liberal members of the council all then agreed to appoint the Nazi as mayor.
 

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But the few dozen people who elected the Nazi to the council is not the weird part of this story. The weird part is that the conservative, socialist and liberal members of the council all then agreed to appoint the Nazi as mayor.


See germany figured out its politicial division! /facepalm
 
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But the few dozen people who elected the Nazi to the council is not the weird part of this story. The weird part is that the conservative, socialist and liberal members of the council all then agreed to appoint the Nazi as mayor.
I saw a documentary piece on the local news on the rise of the AfD in Germany and the recent elections where they made in roads. They seem to be really appealing to the blue collar workers and the youth who feel slighted. In it they also showed Nazi flyers and such that have been found in various places. It seems there is some serious discontent appearing there as we are seeing all over the place. I have said it here before on these situations but I do believe these odd things are happening because world leaders didnt have a decent response to globalization and the boomers after WWII. The generations coming after are having troubles and dont think they will be as successful as previous generations. That causes them to support nationalists and others that would have been shunned decades ago.
 
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Aaaand.. more fake news spread around the interwebs...

He's not a mayor of anything.
He was elected to represent a section of a village of a population of 2,650, within a county of 12,000.
The "advisory board" of that county subsection (7 people) elected him as the Director of their board, since there was no one else running. And why was there no one else running ? Because the previous guy who had the position resigned , because of the complete lack of power the board has when it comes to making policy and politics within the county.

So while this is very bad optics (especially since the members electing him were from 3 different fully democratic and anti-nazi political parties), and all of Germany is discussing this now since 3 days, and is waking up to it, and while this will most likely lead to more and hopefully lasting anti-nazi protests, and might hopefully even result in a dissolution of that whole board in the forseeable future, etc., etc., … Germany has not yet elected Hitler again.

And the Klan is marching in the US still, not in Germany. So everyone keep it in your pants.
 
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I saw a documentary piece on the local news on the rise of the AfD in Germany and the recent elections where they made in roads. They seem to be really appealing to the blue collar workers and the youth who feel slighted. In it they also showed Nazi flyers and such that have been found in various places. It seems there is some serious discontent appearing there as we are seeing all over the place. I have said it here before on these situations but I do believe these odd things are happening because world leaders didnt have a decent response to globalization and the boomers after WWII. The generations coming after are having troubles and dont think they will be as successful as previous generations. That causes them to support nationalists and others that would have been shunned decades ago.
I see it more as a result of globalization, and the older white folks right now seeing themselves on the verge of becoming a minority "in their own country" themselves.. so they shit their pants and go all nationalist again.. forgetting all lessons they supposedly learned from WII and it's aftermath.

The real question to me is:
If minorities in all these countries, like Germany, and the US, are not the ones suffering, and are not treated differently, and all are 'equal'... then why are those old white folks scared shitless of becoming a minority ?
 
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I see it more as a result of globalization, and the older white folks right now seeing themselves on the verge of becoming a minority "in their own country" themselves.. so they shit their pants and go all nationalist again.. forgetting all lessons they supposedly learned from WII and it's aftermath.

The real question to me is:
If minorities in all these countries, like Germany, and the US, are not the ones suffering, and are not treated differently, and all are 'equal'... then why are those old white folks scared shitless of becoming a minority ?
I agree for some older folks racism plays a part. But I dont agree it necessarily is for the younger ones. They see older people having been able to have one parent working and still afford middle class luxuries. They see themselves deep in college debt and not able to live outside their parental homes until 30. They see things like Social Security and Medicare cracking under the pressure of the boomers and told "it might not be there for you." They also see a sort of status quo throughout the last 30 years who looked the other way while the wealthy avoided taxes and made that situation. So I do think that anger has led to both a good sort of reckoning worldwide, but also might be unleashing a negative one. If they dont see change fairly soon, it might not end well. Desperation tends to make people illogical.
 
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I see it more as a result of globalization, and the older white folks right now seeing themselves on the verge of becoming a minority "in their own country" themselves.. so they shit their pants and go all nationalist again.. forgetting all lessons they supposedly learned from WII and it's aftermath.

The real question to me is:
If minorities in all these countries, like Germany, and the US, are not the ones suffering, and are not treated differently, and all are 'equal'... then why are those old white folks scared shitless of becoming a minority ?
Some great points in both of your posts.

There seem to be several things at play here.

The following is about those who may never have lost their feelings or sense of duty to the "cause" or nation (and its cause) they believed they were fighting for or those that just never got the memo about how that circumstance had changed.
Japan WW2 holdout soldier dies

The other appears to be the loss of populations of people who did remember and did learn lessons from WWII and their suffering through it. Inevitably cycles in human behavior seem to come when enough people do not study the past and lessons from it or do not think about what the lessons were.

"Aesop's fables" were an interesting collection of oral traditions that eventually were written down, but mostly presented small tales and fictions about real life situations and in many ways, about human values and senses of right and wrong or "morality". For those that "got" the message in them, they presented some astonishing observances of human behavior and a means to perhaps direct people away from some of the worst human behavior. Certainly, some things change with time and not all lessons might be appropriate across all time, considering the evolution of some cultures where some horrible things were once considered "norms", but have since become abhorrent to the idea that human beings are the most intelligent of all animals.

It seems much the same with things like greed, gluttony and the general selfishness that comes with them, where populations of people learn the lessons of what happens in societies where greed and gluttony become prominent and move away from it because of all the ill it causes to their societies. After a while, new generations come along and someone discovers (as if a new idea) how they can profit and become gluttonous from being greedy and selfish and they attract all kinds of people who never studied the past or have forgotten it so they don't know what it does to a society and it builds and builds again, until people once again, realize the ill it causes.

Sadly, as the world loses all those who have direct memories of the lessons of WWII and any bigotry, hatred, discrimination, holocausts and genocides that came with the death and destruction of fighting against it and unless those who were not directly a part of it, study, learn from that past and pass the lessons forward, we could see another rise to a similar era. Hopefully it would be without the death and destruction, but some humans that do not study and learn from the past, have so far caused the death of millions who do study and learn from the past. I suppose if humans are not intelligent enough to see how they need to check their population growth on the globe, it will be checked by the wars humans seem to find themselves in.

Sad too, that so many have children they claim to love, even as they do things that threaten the future of those they claim to love.

Can and will humans finally "get it" and act according to their claims to be the most intelligent creatures on the planet or will they/we self destruct because the intelligent humans could not stop the less intelligent one's from doing things that burned down the house with all in it?
 
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