Obama’s Imperial Decree: Target Oklahoma

michaelr

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Obama’s Imperial Decree: Target Oklahoma



The larger the federal government gets, the more tyrannical it becomes. This is certainly the case where states reaffirming their tenth amendment rights are concerned. I have a simple solution for these states, with hold all federal taxes, simply keep them.



The states allowed the federal government to be created, the states also have the right to end the federal government. This may very well be the next step, just consider them null and void.
 

Blah

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Apparently they are not States, as Holder said, they are "administrative subdivisions" lol.



It's clear Chairman Obama sees States as nothing more than regional offices of the

Federal Government.
 

michaelr

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[quote name='bla bla' date='07 August 2009 - 12:32 PM' timestamp='1249673539' post='1374']

Apparently they are not States, as Holder said, they are "administrative subdivisions" lol.



It's clear Chairman Obama sees States as nothing more than regional offices of the

Federal Government.

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Here I thought he was a constitutional scholar, I guess that was another lie. The states will send a message soon.
 

anonymous

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[quote name='michaelr' date='07 August 2009 - 09:42 PM' timestamp='1249695762' post='1611']

Here I thought he was a constitutional scholar, I guess that was another lie. The states will send a message soon.

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The states must first be willing to break the money ties to the oligarchs before they could ever begin to win the struggle against the plutocracy.



For the most part people are not willing to do what will eventually needs to be done and will not until all is lost and they have no other choice.
 

michaelr

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[quote name='anonnymous' date='08 August 2009 - 04:37 AM' timestamp='1249731433' post='1655']

The states must first be willing to break the money ties to the oligarchs before they could ever begin to win the struggle against the plutocracy.



For the most part people are not willing to do what will eventually needs to be done and will not until all is lost and they have no other choice.

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It will take leadership from the public. The citizens have this odd believe that the federal government has power over the states, that is wrong as it gets.



We will continue to see attacks from the federal government where states rights issues are concerned, the states need to just ignore it, and the sheriffs need to fulfill there constitutional duty to protect the citizenship, if that requires deputizing the population, then so be it.
 
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[quote name='michaelr' date='07 August 2009 - 09:42 PM' timestamp='1249695762' post='1611']

Here I thought he was a constitutional scholar, I guess that was another lie. The states will send a message soon.

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NO they won't.



Must be painful to have your constant predictions of imminent "revolution" and "resistance" proven wrong over time.
 
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[quote name='michaelr' date='07 August 2009 - 12:45 PM' timestamp='1249663510' post='1223']

Obama’s Imperial Decree: Target Oklahoma



The larger the federal government gets, the more tyrannical it becomes. This is certainly the case where states reaffirming their tenth amendment rights are concerned. I have a simple solution for these states, with hold all federal taxes, simply keep them.



The states allowed the federal government to be created, the states also have the right to end the federal government. This may very well be the next step, just consider them null and void.

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Darn that Supremacy Clause of the Constitution. Who do federal agencies think they are, trying to make federal law superior to state law?
 
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"The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite."

-- Thomas Jefferson



"There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations."

-- James Madison, speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 16, 1788



"the true theory of our Constitution is surely the wisest and best . . . (for) when all government . . . shall be drawn to Washington as the centre of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another, and will become as . . . oppressive as the government from which we separated."

--Thomas Jefferson



RESOLVED: That the principle and construction contended for by sundry of the state legislatures, that the general government is the exclusive judge of the extent of the powers delegated to it, stop nothing short of despotism; since the discretion of those who administer the government, and not the constitution, would be the measure of their powers:

That the several states who formed that instrument, being sovereign and independent, have the unquestionable right to judge of its infraction; and that a nullification, by those sovereignties, of all unauthorized acts done under colour of that instrument, is the rightful remedy.

-- Thomas Jefferson, 1799



"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite."

-- James Madison, Federal No. 45, January 26, 1788



"I consider the foundation of the Constitution as laid on this ground that 'all powers not delegated to the United States, by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states or to the people.' To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress, is to take possession of a boundless field of power not longer susceptible of any definition."

-- Thomas Jefferson, Opinion on the Constitutionality of a National Bank, February 15, 1791



"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground."

-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to E. Carrington, May 27, 1788



"I see,... and with the deepest affliction, the rapid strides with which the federal branch of our government is advancing towards the usurpation of all the rights reserved to the States, and the consolidation in itself of all powers, foreign and domestic; and that, too, by constructions which, if legitimate, leave no limits to their power... It is but too evident that the three ruling branches of [the Federal government] are in combination to strip their colleagues, the State authorities, of the powers reserved by them, and to exercise themselves all functions foreign and domestic."

-- Thomas Jefferson to William Branch Giles, 1825. The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, (Memorial Edition) Lipscomb and Bergh, editors, ME 16:146



"An elective despotism was not the government we fought for, but one which should not only be founded on true free principles, but in which the powers of government should be so divided and balanced among general bodies of magistracy, as that no one could transcend their legal limits without being effectually checked and restrained by the others."

-- Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia Q. XIII, 1782. The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, (Memorial Edition) Lipscomb and Bergh, editors ME 2:163



"When all government, domestic and foreign, in little as in great things, shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another and will become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we separated."

-- Thomas Jefferson to Charles Hammond, 1821. The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, (Memorial Edition) Lipscomb and Bergh, editors, ME 15:332



"Every State has a natural right in cases not within the compact (casus non faederis) to nullify of their own authority all assumptions of power by others within their limits. Without this right, they would be under the dominion, absolute and unlimited, of whosoever might exercise this right of judgment for them."

-- Thomas Jefferson, Draft Kentucky Resolutions, 1798. The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, (Memorial Edition) Lipscomb and Bergh, editors ME 17:387



"[The purpose of a written constitution is] to bind up the several branches of government by certain laws, which, when they transgress, their acts shall become nullities; to render unnecessary an appeal to the people, or in other words a rebellion, on every infraction of their rights, on the peril that their acquiescence shall be construed into an intention to surrender those rights."

-- Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia Q.XIII, 1782. The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, (Memorial Edition) Lipscomb and Bergh, editors, ME 2:178



"Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force."

-- Thomas Jefferson, Draft Kentucky Resolutions, 1798. The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, (Memorial Edition) Lipscomb and Bergh, editors, ME 17:380
 

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