Ohio dem rep Tim Ryan supports GOP tax cuts

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Bipartisanship ahead??

Democratic Rep. Tim Ryan (Ohio) is going against party leaders and calling for a business friendly agenda ahead of the 2018-midterm elections. “To be competitive globally, we have to reduce the corporate tax rate,” Ryan told The Hill in an interview from his Youngstown, Ohio, district office. “We’re just not competitive globally because of that."

Ryan, a fast-rising Democrat from industrial Ohio, is challenging Democrats to take a different approach to big business and work with corporate America to create jobs. We can’t just be the party of redistribution of wealth; we need to be the party of the creation of wealth in communities all over the country, not to just Silicon Valley, not just Wall Street, but all over."

Rising Dem star Tim Ryan splits with party, endorses corporate tax cuts | TheHill
 
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Tim Ryan is also anti-abortion. Makes me wonder why he calls himself a Democrat.

Or is that what modern Democrats have become?
Its kind of the thing Reagan began in the 80s with his speech about "the 80% we agree with defeats the 20% we don't." Meaning even if you agree with only part of what I do, as long as it more than the other guy vote for me. It works electorally. I also think Ryan and other Midwestern and southern democrats understand the electoral college. They know people in their areas are religious and blue collared. So to appeal to them they must be conservative dems or moderates. Progressives cant win in these areas. So rather than hand it over to a republican they stand up for certain policies that while don't play nationally with the party, they do in their local levels. Its one of those conundrums where the party isn't on the same page depending on where they live. GOP is similar if you compare New England republicans with southern ones. Differ on most social issues.
 
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Rasselas

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Ryan, a fast-rising Democrat from industrial Ohio, is challenging Democrats to take a different approach to big business and work with corporate America to create jobs.
Why is this so surprising? Dems are in bed with Wall Street and always have been--that's what complaints about Hillary Clinton were all about.

The problem here isn't that Republicans want to lower corporate taxes (which are the highest in the world and no doubt have negative effects on our economy) but that they don't want to raise taxes anywhere else. Tax reform should be revenue neutral.

Republicans have actually switched from tax reform to simple tax cuts for the wealthy, funded by deficit spending. That's become the one thing the GOP can agree on.
 
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Tim Ryan is also anti-abortion. Makes me wonder why he calls himself a Democrat.

Or is that what modern Democrats have become?
He's one of the new Blue dog Republican lite politicians.

They would be Republican if their district were a tad more conservative.
 

Rasselas

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He's one of the new Blue dog Republican lite politicians.

They would be Republican if their district were a tad more conservative.
Shouldn't the perspectives of the district guide the views of the representative? You can't have a "big tent" party if you're constantly kicking out everyone who isn't pure. That's why the current Republican (and to a lesser extent Democrat) trend to primary anyone whose views are centrist is self-defeating. Blue Dogs still vote for a Democrat for Speaker. That's overwhelmingly important--much more important than making sure every member of your party is orthodox. The Speaker freaking runs the show in the House, where every member of the majority party is called "chairman" and the minority mostly just gets to bitch and point fingers. I'll take 30 Blue Dogs from rural midwest and southern districts, thank you very much.
 
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Jets

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Shouldn't the perspectives of the district guide the views of the representative? You can't have a "big tent" party if you're constantly kicking out everyone who isn't pure. That's why the current Republican (and to a lesser extent Democrat) trend to primary anyone whose views are centrist is self-defeating. Blue Dogs still vote for a Democrat for Speaker. That's overwhelmingly important--much more important than making sure every member of your party is orthodox. The Speaker freaking runs the show in the House, where every member of the majority party is called "chairman" and the minority mostly just gets to bitch and point fingers. I'll take 30 Blue Dogs from rural midwest and southern districts, thank you very much.
At your service ;)
 

Rasselas

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WTF is wrong with people, tax cuts do nothing but put more money into the hands of the rich. How much friggen more proof do you need?
Corporate tax cuts could be made up for with an increase in marginal tax rates and equalizing the tax on capital gains with taxes on labor. That would mitigate the effect the progressively of the tax code.

It doesn't make sense to have the highest corporate tax rates in the world. This discourages foreign investment in the US and encourages Americans to keep their capital outside the country. It keeps corporations from having money to invest in capital equipment, R&D, and business expansion. We should concentrate on taxes as corporate profits go into the pockets of investors. Anything that cuts our relative advantage over other developed countries should be examined carefully.
 
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