Once Its Greatest Foes, Doctors Are Embracing Single-Payer

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I have stated my opinions over and over. Expand Medicare to younger people. It has a 3% overhead.

Or Single Payer for all. Universal, that would cut Insurance companies profit.

It is clear that Medicare Advantage plans adjusted to the ACA and expanded benefits. It will not be free,everyone would pay just like they do for Medicare today. Simplify, which is exavtly what young Doctors are doing today.

Help Doctors pay for their Education. Incentives to practice in Rural areas. Nurse Practitioners. Something my office already has to take a major load off Doctors. Some offices here have 6 or 8 Nurse Practitioners to one Doctor. Mine has 4 Doctors, Nurse Practitioners,2 to 1, and they are looking for more.

Your ideas?
My idea is we are gonna need lots and lots of magical fairy dust to pay for it.

Because it's FREE! ya know...
 
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My idea is we are gonna need lots and lots of magical fairy dust to pay for it.

Because it's FREE! ya know...
Why do we need fairy dust when we are already paying more per capita than other OECD countries for health care, but leave 15.5% people without health insurance?

Trumpcare: In 2016, 12.2 percent of working adults lacked health insurance. During the first few months of 2018, that number rose to 15.5 percent.

https://healthpayerintelligence.com/news/uninsured-rate-among-working-adults-rises-to-15.5-in-2018

To dismiss the problem of un-insurance is folly. Saying, for example, the uninsured will “get care when they’re sick or show up at a hospital” is denying a real problem. Medical bills are the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. Lack of insurance exacerbates this problem. Additionally, there is a correlation between the uninsurance rate and bad hospital debt.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshua...lesome-news-numbers-of-uninsured-on-the-rise/
 
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Why do we need fairy dust when we are already paying more per capita than other OECD countries for health care, but leave 15.5% people without health insurance?

Trumpcare: In 2016, 12.2 percent of working adults lacked health insurance. During the first few months of 2018, that number rose to 15.5 percent.

https://healthpayerintelligence.com/news/uninsured-rate-among-working-adults-rises-to-15.5-in-2018

To dismiss the problem of un-insurance is folly. Saying, for example, the uninsured will “get care when they’re sick or show up at a hospital” is denying a real problem. Medical bills are the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. Lack of insurance exacerbates this problem. Additionally, there is a correlation between the uninsurance rate and bad hospital debt.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshua...lesome-news-numbers-of-uninsured-on-the-rise/
Something will be done. As soon as we get Democrats in office again.

Republicans have had all these years, nothing. By the time President Obama was in office 2 years we were well on the way to gettiing the ACA passed.

They have done nothing but tear down.

We have to hope some of these Republicans they are putting on the Courts care more about their country than a messed up Republican Party. John Roberts did. Once they get a lifetime position they often do.
 
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https://www.consumerreports.org/personal-bankruptcy/how-the-aca-drove-down-personal-bankruptcy/

I would imagine that businesses do better when their customers dont go bankrupt.
Even the Insurance companies themselves have come around to the ACA. They found it created many new customers, including young ones. Now, they have no idea what is coming next.

Thanks for the charts. Proof of what really happened under the ACA. Many found that out when Republicans slashed it as people flooded Town Halls to object.

The fear tactic Republicans used for years is backfiring now.
 
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My dad was ninety and they didn't miss a trick until he indicated he had had enough. They wanted to go the dialysis route too after he got off the vent. Medicare paid for everything but the 50 dollar deductible ER visit
You say that as if Doctors have a choice. They took an oath. They can not turn it off.

That should give you the incentive to make sure you have a Living will. I found out this week they will even put that on your Drivers License.
 
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You say that as if Doctors have a choice. They took an oath. They can not turn it off.

That should give you the incentive to make sure you have a Living will. I found out this week they will even put that on your Drivers License.
Exactly right.

Living wills are important.

Especially for very elderly people.

They should ALL have em...
 
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The point of Universal Health Care, or Single Payer (if you prefer), is to provide an acceptable standard of health care for every member of society (irrespective of financial standing). It is as simple as that. It is not to introduce 'creeping socialism', nor is it a method of facilitating 'death panels', neither is it intended to reduce choice or diminish the income of medical practitioners.

The fact is - a healthy population is a happier and more productive population, and making both reactive and preventative health care free at the point of delivery provides an incentive to have regular medical examinations, and to treat minor ailments in a timely manner. It is much easier (and cheaper) to deal with a nasty cold, than it is to deal with pneumonia.

But of course, we all understand that nothing is free and the piper must be paid. The most equitable (and relatively painless) way of funding healthcare is by means of income taxation - it also spreads the burden across the entirety of the population, in the same manner as the maintenance of the armed forces, the justice system, the fire brigade and the transport systems. Those with little income pay relatively little and those with income in the millions pay proportionately more. No one goes without food or shelter as a result.

Universal health care systems vary across the world, but they are the norm for developed nations, and they all have one thing in common - guaranteed healthcare for every member of society - irrespective of financial abilities. Surely that is an aim worthy of putting aside fears of creeping socialism, or other ideological concerns?
 
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