Orange County Now Majority Democrat

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The decline of the California GOP is nearly complete, as the reddest part of the West Coast has gone blue: In Reagan's California, Democrats take a majority

This is simply the result of the same demographic and political forces that the GOP has been warning itself about since before 2012 and the "autopsy" white paper that followed. The current GOP is following Trump to have a stronger and stronger hold on a smaller and smaller portion of American voters.

Californians are simply not much interested in most of the policies and rhetoric that hold the center of the party nationally. We want different things than the national party is offering. The CA state party might offer something popular on its own, but it's still tied to Trump's GOP, and that's literally killing the party here.

The question is whether California is a harbinger for the rest of the nation, as it has been so many times before. CA Republicans have given up and they hope that big electoral wins elsewhere will bring California back to the conservative fold. It seems to me that 2020 will be highly competitive but a sea change in the direction of the GOP seems highly unlikely.

At some point the GOP will have to remake itself. Maybe Dems will make that easy by following young activists hard to the left. That would allow the GOP to become the break on leftward movement that it was for so many years, back before Gingrich. Let's hope, for the sake of American politics, that they can manage to provide a counterbalance to the Dems here in the future. Every American state needs and deserves (at least) two healthy political parties that speak to the needs of citizens.

BTW, I live in a very conservative part of the state. Republicans can still get elected in the rural farm and mountain areas of California. But losing Orange County (particularly with so many defections this long before the primaries) doesn't look good.
 
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Interesting. I am noticing here in New England, that strict GOP/red areas have turned blue while blueDem working class areas have turned GOP. It seems to be a bit of a trend that college educated suburbanites seem to be looking more at the Democratic party while the construction/mining/machinists etc are going to the republicans. Worcester County in MA was solid blue and working class. Today they have switched to red while the more wealthy highly educated suburbs in MA have gone blue.

Slowly but surely, Worcester County has gone Republican - The Boston Globe
 
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I regularly drive up and down I5 in California. Between Sacrament and Oregon AM radio has nothing but sports talk, bible thumpers, music, and right wing talk radio. Rush Limbaugh is on 5 different stations at the same time.

With the death of newspapers the folks in rural Northern California have no access to straight news. As a result they continue to vote for Republicans who reliably screw the public for the benefit of agribiz and big donors. It's only where voters have access to real info that Repubs get no traction.
 
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I regularly drive up and down I5 in California. Between Sacrament and Oregon AM radio has nothing but sports talk, bible thumpers, music, and right wing talk radio. Rush Limbaugh is on 5 different stations at the same time.

With the death of newspapers the folks in rural Northern California have no access to straight news. As a result they continue to vote for Republicans who reliably screw the public for the benefit of agribiz and big donors. It's only where voters have access to real info that Repubs get no traction.
Sure. Been to 'Frisco lately? Or LA? I rest my case.
 
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Orange County is also very wealthy and that means they will tend to move more away from the GOP. GOP has gone full blown working class and supports tariffs and no trade agreements. Anti globalization etc. Most white collar, educated voters are against tariffs and for globalization while the blue collared work force isnt. Unless the GOP moves back toward the Bush's I dont expect that to change.
 
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Orange County is also very wealthy and that means they will tend to move more away from the GOP. GOP has gone full blown working class and supports tariffs and no trade agreements. Anti globalization etc. Most white collar, educated voters are against tariffs and for globalization while the blue collared work force isnt. Unless the GOP moves back toward the Bush's I dont expect that to change.
Actually no one represents the working and underclasses. "Both" parties serve the donor class to the detriment of society at large.
 
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Really unless God intervenes like he did in 2016, I think socialism/cultural marxism/Social Justice/wokeness, LGBTQ, open borders will take over eventually. I think trump wins in 2020. In 2024, it's probably gonna be Leftism on steroids. It's been trending this way very fast in the last 11 years. Even in 2008 we wouldn't have seen the stuff we're seeing today. And none of the democrats are as far down the leftist road like they are now

Trump currently is like democrats of the 1990's
 
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Actually no one represents the working and underclasses. "Both" parties serve the donor class to the detriment of society at large.
True but thats where Trumps "Reality tv" comes in handy. He is great at getting a good photo op. Having all those miners and steel workers at his PA rally a week before the 2016 election was brilliant. Then to top it all off, Hillary was with Beyonce and Trump told the workers "I would rather be here with you." Worked well.
 
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True but thats where Trumps "Reality tv" comes in handy. He is great at getting a good photo op. Having all those miners and steel workers at his PA rally a week before the 2016 election was brilliant. Then to top it all off, Hillary was with Beyonce and Trump told the workers "I would rather be here with you." Worked well.
Well yeah, but the spectacle and illusion of our poltical system/process did not begin with Don, and the donor class always has it covered "either" way. Why else do you think you wind up with a "choice" of Hillary or Don?