Ouch. Nobody likes Ukrainian nationalists lol

The Man

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Loan of Ukraine striker called off in Spain after protests


FILE - In this Nov. 15, 2013 file photo, Ukraine’s Roman Zozulya celebrates after scoring during the first leg 2014 World Cup qualifying soccer match against France at the Olympiyskiy national stadium in Kiev, Ukraine. The transfer of Ukraine striker Roman Zozulya from Real Betis to second-division club Rayo Vallecano Wednesday Feb. 1, 2017 is being called off in Spain after protests from fans who accused the player of having connections to radical groups back home. (Efrem Lukatsky, File/Associated Press)

By Tales Azzoni | AP February 1 at 2:17 PM

MADRID — The loan of Ukraine striker Roman Zozulya from Real Betis to second-division club Rayo Vallecano is being called off after protests from Spanish fans who accused the player of having connections to radical groups back home.

Real Betis director Miguel Torrecilla said Wednesday that the clubs had agreed to scrap the move to “protect the person and the player.”

“We received news that he is having problems with a radical (fan) group,” Torrecilla said. “We talked to Rayo and we agreed that he will return to Seville.”

Rayo fans began criticizing Zozulya on social media even before the loan was officially announced on Tuesday. A few supporters insulted the player as he arrived at the club’s training center on Wednesday, and a large banner was in place demanding that he left the club.

Torrecilla said the clubs’ lawyers would work on the legal details of revoking the transfer, which was made just before the end of the European transfer deadline.

Because the move to Rayo went through, Zozulya is not expected to be allowed to play for Betis or another European club until the new transfer window opens in the summer.

“He is very disturbed,” Torrecilla said. “He didn’t expect that this could happen. Yesterday he wrote a text to all Rayo fans but apparently it didn’t reach certain sectors, so we will take him back.”

The 27-year-old striker released an open letter to Rayo fans immediately after he was signed, saying the “misunderstanding” about his views happened when he arrived in Spain last year to play for Betis wearing a shirt that a local journalist thought displayed a badge supporting radical groups in his native country. He said that the journalist admitted the mistake at the time and issued an apology.

Zozulya said in his letter, which was released by the club on its website, that he supported the army back home to “help protect” his country at an “extremely difficult time” of war, but didn’t support nor was linked to “any paramilitary or neo-Nazi groups,” as many had alleged on social media.

“I know that this work that I’ve done fully coincides with the social values heralded by Rayo Vallecano and its unconditional fans,” he wrote.

Rayo Vallecano, based just outside Madrid, was relegated to the second division last season. It is currently 17th in the 22-team standings.

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Loan of Ukraine striker called off in Spain after protests

Zozulya with a Bandera scarf


With some Ukrainian pro-regime troops, who were heading to Donbass at the time


And his letter in Spanish, where he tries to explain he is really not such a bad guy lol


Man, the Russians have really taught the Spanish to hate the Ukrops and their nationalism hahaha

Spanish volunteers, mainly from far left groups, went to fight alongside the pro-Russian rebels in Donbass

I heard one guy talking about how Russian/Soviet volunteers came to aid his anti-fascist ancestors during the Spanish Civil War, and so, now, he was there returning the favor :)

Spanish government later initially arrested some returning volunteers, but then let them go, after a widespread public outrage. They really do have a LOT of sympathy there, the Donbass rebels do.

Ukrainians in Spain, reportedly wearing nationalist and anti-Russian symbols, get attacked by Spanish AntiFas, one Ukrop is left unconscious
[video=youtube;lsp_IP3N-cE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsp_IP3N-cE[/video]
In another incident I recall, a Spanish university was showing a pro-rebel documentary about Donbass, some local Ukrainians came to protest with their flag, and the Spanish students beat them up and chased them away.

Donbass rebel office of some kind, in Pamplona, Spain


Donbass rebel flag at Catalonian separatist demonstration


So, yeah, Spain is pro-Russia, pro-Donbass. Ukrainian nationalists best steer clear :)
 

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The Mistake of the Ukraine: Trusting the West.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances

From the link:

The memorandum included security assurances against threats or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan.

As a result, between 1994 and 1996, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons. Before that, Ukraine had the world's third largest nuclear weapons stockpile,[2][3] of which Ukraine had physical if not operational control.[4][5] The use of the weapons was dependent on Russian-controlled electronic Permissive Action Links and the Russian command and control system.[4][5]

Now, those nukes obviously would not have helped the Ukraine very much, BUT....they could be one hell of a negotiating tool. And, it would only take one or two to be removed from a Warhead, and possibly redesigned for use against invading forces (I honestly do not know HOW that works...)


This should be a lesson to ALL: NEVER surrender the defenses of your sovereignty to outside forces, EVEN IF all your friends, allies, and the entire world tell you "it will be okay, we will stand beside you."

That is naivete on dope and steroids.

Of course...the Crimea did belong to Russia longer than it did to the Ukraine (Don't know about the other areas Russia has annexed.)
 
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The Man

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The Mistake of the Ukraine: Trusting the West.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances

From the link:




Now, those nukes obviously would not have helped the Ukraine very much, BUT....they could be one hell of a negotiating tool. And, it would only take one or two to be removed from a Warhead, and possibly redesigned for use against invading forces (I honestly do not know HOW that works...)


This should be a lesson to ALL: NEVER surrender the defenses of your sovereignty to outside forces, EVEN IF all your friends, allies, and the entire world tell you "it will be okay, we will stand beside you."

That is naivete on dope and steroids.

Of course...the Crimea did belong to Russia longer than it did to the Ukraine (Don't know about the other areas Russia has annexed.)
Ukraine had no money to properly maintain a nuclear arsenal anyway. Especially back in the 90s. Russia was broke back then, and Ukraine was even worse off. Piss poor and corrupt from top to bottom. Any nukes that stayed in Ukraine, would probably have just ended up on the black market.

Their economy is still in the shitter, to this day. Because, unlike Russia, they don't even have any natural resources to barter with. They found some oil in the Crimea. Only to LOSE Crimea to Russia about a year later lol Poor bastards...
 

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