Pentagon blames Trump for rise of ISIS in Iraq and Syria

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Bush and Blair did that.
Perhaps Trump should have learned from history instead of dooming the US to repeat it,.

It was President George W. Bush who signed the Status of Forces agreement in 2008, which planned for all American troops to be out of Iraq by the end of 2011.

Bush said the agreement laid out a framework for the withdrawal of American forces in Iraq — a withdrawal that is possible because of the success of the surge," he said in a joint press conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki at the time.

Moments later, an Iraqi journalist threw his shoes at the president. It is important to remember most Iraqis saw the Americans as occupiers and blame them for civilian deaths.



Thousands of American troops had died, and by the time Obama announced the withdrawal, fully three-quarters of Americans supported the withdrawal (though a majority of Republicans did not) Obama was following through on an agreement made by Bush and abiding by the will of the Iraqi and American people.
Still, many had real concerns al Qaeda wasn't done for. And there were some, including U.S. senators, saying the troops should stay just in case things went downhill. They say Obama should have sold the idea, hard, to Maliki.
The withdrawal of U.S. troops helped ISIS. If they'd stayed, they could have bolstered Iraq's security forces and tamped down Sunni anger. The minority Sunni population of Iraq suffered under a government dominated by the Shiite majority. The rift between Sunnis and Shiites in Iraq has been going on for centuries. And that wasn't going to be permanently solved by American troops.

Another crucial thing is Syria. For reasons completely beyond Obama's control, after 2011, Syria sank into civil war. Suddenly, just over Iraq's borders were vast ungoverned spaces and lots of weapons. It became a safe haven for ISIS to grow in.

ISIS took control of the cities of Mosul in Iraq and Raqqa in Syria and is proved a potent threat abroad, claiming credit for major attacks in Paris in November and Brussels in March 2016 resulting in Obama having to send a total of US special forces to Syria to help fight the ISIS takeover.
 
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Perhaps Trump should have learned from history instead of dooming the US to repeat it,.

It was President George W. Bush who signed the Status of Forces agreement in 2008, which planned for all American troops to be out of Iraq by the end of 2011.

Bush said the agreement laid out a framework for the withdrawal of American forces in Iraq — a withdrawal that is possible because of the success of the surge," he said in a joint press conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki at the time.

Moments later, an Iraqi journalist threw his shoes at the president. It is important to remember most Iraqis saw the Americans as occupiers and blame them for civilian deaths.



Thousands of American troops had died, and by the time Obama announced the withdrawal, fully three-quarters of Americans supported the withdrawal (though a majority of Republicans did not) Obama was following through on an agreement made by Bush and abiding by the will of the Iraqi and American people.
Still, many had real concerns al Qaeda wasn't done for. And there were some, including U.S. senators, saying the troops should stay just in case things went downhill. They say Obama should have sold the idea, hard, to Maliki.
The withdrawal of U.S. troops helped ISIS. If they'd stayed, they could have bolstered Iraq's security forces and tamped down Sunni anger. The minority Sunni population of Iraq suffered under a government dominated by the Shiite majority. The rift between Sunnis and Shiites in Iraq has been going on for centuries. And that wasn't going to be permanently solved by American troops.

Another crucial thing is Syria. For reasons completely beyond Obama's control, after 2011, Syria sank into civil war. Suddenly, just over Iraq's borders were vast ungoverned spaces and lots of weapons. It became a safe haven for ISIS to grow in.

ISIS took control of the cities of Mosul in Iraq and Raqqa in Syria and is proved a potent threat abroad, claiming credit for major attacks in Paris in November and Brussels in March 2016 resulting in Obama having to send a total of US special forces to Syria to help fight the ISIS takeover.
Obama supported the insurgency in Syria, which made the civil war worse and last years longer.
 
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