Pirated Music Crackdown...at the Airport?

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This is interesting, a Canadian Catholic Bishop was just stopped at a border crossing with child porn on his laptop. (As opposed to the choirboy that presumably usually occupies his laptop) I kid, but it's your same question, how did CBSA (border security) know what was on his laptop?



That story was newsworthy for two reasons. A) He was the man responsible for negotiating the payout awarded to mass victims in Canada of past sexual assaults by priests, and B... how did Canada Border Services know he had child porn on his laptop?
 

michaelr

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[quote name='Freedom for All' date='06 October 2009 - 01:06 PM' timestamp='1254859588' post='33633']

If people don't steal music, they have nothing to worry about.



Though I certainly doubt the Constitutionality of any such search in the US.

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I do not want the government illegally searching and down loading my files. The need a warrant or probable cause.
 

michaelr

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[quote name='Dr.Knuckles' date='06 October 2009 - 01:03 PM' timestamp='1254859396' post='33630']

This is interesting, a Canadian Catholic Bishop was just stopped at a border crossing with child porn on his laptop. (As opposed to the choirboy that presumably usually occupies his laptop) I kid, but it's your same question, how did CBSA (border security) know what was on his laptop?



That story was newsworthy for two reasons. A) He was the man responsible for negotiating the payout awarded to mass victims in Canada of past sexual assaults by priests, and B... how did Canada Border Services know he had child porn on his laptop?

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Now you know. I always look for a story within a story. There was some middle class folks partying after a local democrat event in San Diego, the police were called, but to me the story was the police were dropped in by helicopter into someones back yard.
 

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[quote name='michaelr' date='06 October 2009 - 09:56 AM' timestamp='1254848197' post='33533']

Pirated Music Crackdown...at the Airport?



but...but...say it isn't so, the government lied again, they said TSA was screening laptops and cameras and other digital storage devices for evidence of terrorism.....

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Wow, that's some of the most wishy-washy "reporting" I've ever seen you link to.



"and now, possibly pirated music."

"apparently looking at a plan to start searching iPods"

"according to a 'leaked discussion paper'"

"The Aussies may not be only ones considering the idea"

"proposal is said to be part of a broader international treaty"

"believed to include the good ol' U.S. of A."

"we could ultimately see the concept pop up here"

"or theoretically even jail time"



possibly, apparently, according to, may not be, is said to be, believed to include, could ultimately, theoretically... way to go out on a limb and make a rock solid statement.



Okay, since this could possibly apparently be a believed to be real threat to our freedom (the freedom to illegally download music?), could you tell me how it will be implemented and how a baggage checker will be able to tell the difference between a downloaded song that was paid for and one that wasn't?
 

michaelr

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[quote name='boontito' date='06 October 2009 - 01:18 PM' timestamp='1254860305' post='33642']

Wow, that's some of the most wishy-washy "reporting" I've ever seen you link to.



"and now, possibly pirated music."

"apparently looking at a plan to start searching iPods"

"according to a 'leaked discussion paper'"

"The Aussies may not be only ones considering the idea"

"proposal is said to be part of a broader international treaty"

"believed to include the good ol' U.S. of A."

"we could ultimately see the concept pop up here"

"or theoretically even jail time"



possibly, apparently, according to, may not be, is said to be, believed to include, could ultimately, theoretically... way to go out on a limb and make a rock solid statement.



Okay, since this could possibly apparently be a believed to be real threat to our freedom (the freedom to illegally download music?), could you tell me how it will be implemented and how a baggage checker will be able to tell the difference between a downloaded song that was paid for and one that wasn't?

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I believe the ones you pay for are coded. They download all your files, that should be the concern, they do it at first under the guise of terrorism, then stolen music.



Is it any wonder the US will not see the Olympics here???
 
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[quote name='michaelr' date='06 October 2009 - 01:08 PM' timestamp='1254859691' post='33635']

I do not want the government illegally searching and down loading my files. The need a warrant or probable cause.

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Really?



Gee, I wonder what I meant by the second sentence of my post?
 
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[quote name='michaelr' date='06 October 2009 - 12:56 PM' timestamp='1254848197' post='33533']

Pirated Music Crackdown...at the Airport?



but...but...say it isn't so, the government lied again, they said TSA was screening laptops and cameras and other digital storage devices for evidence of terrorism.....

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This is the problem that I have with the Patriot Act. It was passed without safeguards. If the gov't wants to check certain electronic communication to catch terrorists, go for it. I am fine with warrantless wiretaps on those grounds...but those grounds ONLY!



They should have made it cleared that ANY enforcement agent that used ANY information other than strictly terrorist activity to prosecute other crimes be charged with a felony and subject to a mandatory prison term of not less than 10 years and ALL ill-gotten evidence for crimes that fall outside of the act of terror be forever barred from the courts. I don't care how henious the act may be in your eyes (pirated music, kiddie porn, or even murder). The intent of the warrantless taps was to catch TERRORISTS! It was not a free pass to catch speeders, necrophiliacs, polygamists, and tax cheats.
 

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[quote name='michaelr' date='06 October 2009 - 03:34 PM' timestamp='1254861253' post='33647']

I believe the ones you pay for are coded. They download all your files, that should be the concern, they do it at first under the guise of terrorism, then stolen music.



Is it any wonder the US will not see the Olympics here???

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This isn't accurate but its close.



1st Songs you download legally are not coded and there is mostly no difference between songs you download illegally. The only difference is the encoding which can be changed within Windows or MacOS with a simple properties editor. Legally. This change doesn't change the file whatsoever outside of text. You can also name the file anything you want which is notable mostly with people setting up music libraries.



2nd They do not download your whole hard-drive. That would take way to long and despite rumor, there is not top secret instant speed internet that is capable of handling most later model hard-drives, which sit around 250g-1tb. Movie files are commonly around 700mb + and that alone could take some time across even the most stable highest speed wireless link.



What they do is that take a snap-shot of your drive and/or access it and snoop around within it and highlight potential files that could be enough for probable cause.
 

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