Political correctness

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Someone once had a signature line that said something to the effect of: "What happened to civility? You called it 'political correctness' and mocked it."
For fucks sakes...political correctness is ANYTHING but civility. It is a concerted effort to absolutely shut down thought that even remotely disagrees with the thought process of the left.
The left comes at issues from a pure emotional angle and simply can NOT deal with people who have a differing opinion. To stay in their safe bubble, they feel compelled...no...in order for them to survive, the MUST immediately shut down any opposing thought.
Simply put, the intellectually bankrupt left are cowards. Not up to real debate. They are bat shit crazy.
 
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Ok, sorry I wasn't trying to twist your words.
Still, where's the regulation? I believe you, I'm just drawing a blank in terms of thinking of an example.
The Christian bakers is the most commonly known example. Muslim taxi drivers refusing to carry people carry alcohol or single women (meaning without a male family escort) are second examples.
 
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Someone once had a signature line that said something to the effect of: "What happened to civility? You called it 'political correctness' and mocked it."
If you are equating civility with political correctness, I disagree. There’s a difference between doing something voluntarily and being coerced into doing it by regulatory means. Note that universities, which should be the bastions of free speech, are consistently becoming the halls of oppression through political correctness.
 
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The Christian bakers is the most commonly known example. Muslim taxi drivers refusing to carry people carry alcohol or single women (meaning without a male family escort) are second examples.
I haven't heard/read anything about the Muslim taxi drivers, so can't speak to that. As for the bakers, it seems they ultimately prevailed in court, right? However, I don't consider that within the parameters of "PC" per se. It's a little tricky, that one. If a bakery refused service to black folk it would be a clear cut case, right? But b/c the bakers claim a religious dispensation to refuse service to gay folk it gets complicated. Sure, freedom of religion is paramount, but this simply cannot be universally applied. The Bible says a lot of whacky things so anyone could pull some text to justify stoning their wives. If you're open to the public you should serve all people equally. Baking a damn cake won't keep you from Heavan.
That said, why would the couple want the reluctant bakers to bake a very important cake? The marketplace should have taken care of these religious nutters. Yelp 'em, boycott 'em, hold press conferences outside their store... Nail 'em in the pocket and ouila! I bet they'd have a revelation. Or, go out of business and sell bibles door to door.
 
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For fucks sakes...political correctness is ANYTHING but civility. It is a concerted effort to absolutely shut down thought that even remotely disagrees with the thought process of the left.
No, it is not. It was concocted to demand respect from people who feel justified in attacking those they hate. It has nothing to do with people who merely disagree.
The left comes at issues from a pure emotional angle and simply can NOT deal with people who have a differing opinion.
No more true than the right-wing version of political correctness which attacks anyone who disagrees or has a different opinion. You do it constantly on this board, and you are anything but civil.
 
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I haven't heard/read anything about the Muslim taxi drivers, so can't speak to that. As for the bakers, it seems they ultimately prevailed in court, right? However, I don't consider that within the parameters of "PC" per se. It's a little tricky, that one. If a bakery refused service to black folk it would be a clear cut case, right? But b/c the bakers claim a religious dispensation to refuse service to gay folk it gets complicated. Sure, freedom of religion is paramount, but this simply cannot be universally applied. The Bible says a lot of whacky things so anyone could pull some text to justify stoning their wives. If you're open to the public you should serve all people equally. Baking a damn cake won't keep you from Heavan.
That said, why would the couple want the reluctant bakers to bake a very important cake? The marketplace should have taken care of these religious nutters. Yelp 'em, boycott 'em, hold press conferences outside their store... Nail 'em in the pocket and ouila! I bet they'd have a revelation. Or, go out of business and sell bibles door to door.
Agreed on complicated. In the 2004 election, (OMG, has it really been 15 years now?) Rand Paul took a lot of heat for disagreeing with a particular section of the 1964 Civil Rights Act by saying "the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not improve race relations or enhance freedom. Instead, the forced integration dictated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing individual liberty."

Rand Paul Explains His Family’s Opposition To Civil Rights Act: ‘It’s About Controlling Property’

The US government used all of it's force to reduce individual rights, specifically property rights, in the name of political correctness. Call it decency, fairness, whatever. The fact remains it's a federal law which reduces individual freedom in favor of another person's/people's ideas of morality. I'm against any idiot who wants to turn away customers since any good capitalist should always be biased toward GREEN, but to have a government impose morality on its citizens sets that government on a dangerous path.

Consider flipping that idea around. The far Right keeps insisting the US is a Christian nation and many have said our laws should be based on the Bible. Since 74%+ of Americans, at present, are Christian, letting a majority dictate the national religion would put us on a path where, eventually, the majority could be Muslim, atheist or anything else but Christianity. Empowering the Federal government to do such things is very dangerous, IMO, and would put us on the path of adverse unintended consequences.
 
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From the article:



I have to agree about the weirdness about people speaking more than one language. It's a source of pride that Melania Trump is a polyglot, even though her English isn't all that great, but if your first language is Spanish and your second is English, you are looked down on and people basically demand you speak English only.

I really don't get that.
I think what you need to "get", is that there are extreme people all over the place. Both left and right have them.
Unfortunately, since the election of The Great Orange Hued One, the left have willingly given control of their side, to their own crazy-assed extremists.

They are loud, they lie constantly, and they are bloody dangerous.
 
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I think what you need to "get", is that there are extreme people all over the place. Both left and right have them.
Unfortunately, since the election of The Great Orange Hued One, the left have willingly given control of their side, to their own crazy-assed extremists.

They are loud, they lie constantly, and they are bloody dangerous.

Nail on the head...
 

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