Quadruple ICE Budget

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A necessary and cost effective move by the federal government would be to quadruple the budget of ICE. If only added to ERO and HIS, this would go a long way to getting rid of huge numbers of illegal aliens.

As Eisenhower did back in 1954, with Operation Wetb*ck, ICE agents (ERO), upon established information from HIS, should go house to house hunting down illegal aliens, arresting them, and quickly deporting them.

With the astronomical amounts of money that illegal aliens are costing America, this increase of budget, and strengthening of ICE would pay for itself easily and quickly, as well as to put a stop to the long list of the HARMS that Americans are undergoing from immigration (especially illegal).
 
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The reason ICE is so promently in the news is because Donald Trump put them forefront into an immigration crisis of his own making.

ICE is a tool in the immigration tool box. What Donald Trump did was to take oversight of immigration detainees and refugees from HHS and gave that task to ICE.

ICE by US law is not equipt to handle children detainees, asylum seekers or immigrants already in the immigration judicial system.

By US law, ICE is supposed to give detainees over to HHS. That is the law.

The significant increase in illegal migration of unaccompanied children and family
units also contributed to operational challenges for ICE. ICE does not detain
unaccompanied children. Under the law, ICE is required to transfer unaccompanied
children to HHS, generally within 72 hours. HHS then becomes responsible for
their care and is required by law to place unaccompanied minors in the least
restrictive setting that is in the best interest of the child, which generally results in
placement with a family member.
https://www.ice.gov/doclib/about/offices/ero/pdf/2014-ice-immigration-removals.pdf#page=5

Read this ICE report from 2014...It is a blueprint to how and why Trump's zero tolerance policy was doomed from day one.


Trump disregarded US Law and put ICE in charge of detainees and child asylum seekers. He created this whole mess. People may be angry at ICE, but Trump is the cause of all this mess. Trump alone.



If Trump is asking for more dollars for ICE now that is ass-backwards.

Things Trump should have known about ICE..but never read the briefings. Too busy texting about Mad Max and Pocahantis...

from 2014.
Unlike adults apprehended at the border who are
placed into expedited removal, the law requires that unaccompanied children be
placed in removal proceedings before an immigration judge (as opposed to
expedited removal). These cases are placed on the non-detained immigration court
docket, and due to a number of factors, generally take significantly longer to be
adjudicated than those of adults.

Like single adults, family units apprehended at the border may be placed into
expedited removal proceedings and detained. However, this process requires ICE to
maintain an increased level of family detention space, which historically has been
limited to fewer than 100 beds nationwide. ICE cannot detain family units,
including children, in adult detention facilities.
 
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The reason ICE is so promently in the news is because Donald Trump put them forefront into an immigration crisis of his own making.

ICE is a tool in the immigration tool box. What Donald Trump did was to take oversight of immigration detainees and refugees from HHS and gave that task to ICE.

ICE by US law is not equipt to handle children detainees, asylum seekers or immigrants already in the immigration judicial system.

By US law, ICE is supposed to give detainees over to HHS. That is the law.


https://www.ice.gov/doclib/about/offices/ero/pdf/2014-ice-immigration-removals.pdf#page=5

Read this ICE report from 2014...It is a blueprint to how and why Trump's zero tolerance policy was doomed from day one.


Trump disregarded US Law and put ICE in charge of detainees and child asylum seekers. He created this whole mess. People may be angry at ICE, but Trump is the cause of all this mess. Trump alone.



If Trump is asking for more dollars for ICE now that is ass-backwards.

Things Trump should have known about ICE..but never read the briefings. Too busy texting about Mad Max and Pocahantis...

from 2014.
It's because some idiot politicians have repeated the call to "ABOLISH ICE".

That's not going to work well for them...
 
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I'll let you worry about what will work for others.

Im just stating facts.
Wonder how many more politicians with presidential aspirations will join the call to "ABOLISH ICE"?

Probably not many more are that stupid.

But, ya never know...
 
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Wonder how many more politicians with presidential aspirations will join the call to "ABOLISH ICE"?

Probably not many more are that stupid.

But, ya never know...
Like I said...I leave that kind of introspection to you. You seem very good at it.
 

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The reason ICE is so promently in the news is because Donald Trump put them forefront into an immigration crisis of his own making.

ICE is a tool in the immigration tool box. What Donald Trump did was to take oversight of immigration detainees and refugees from HHS and gave that task to ICE.

ICE by US law is not equipt to handle children detainees, asylum seekers or immigrants already in the immigration judicial system.

By US law, ICE is supposed to give detainees over to HHS. That is the law.


https://www.ice.gov/doclib/about/offices/ero/pdf/2014-ice-immigration-removals.pdf#page=5

Read this ICE report from 2014...It is a blueprint to how and why Trump's zero tolerance policy was doomed from day one.


Trump disregarded US Law and put ICE in charge of detainees and child asylum seekers. He created this whole mess. People may be angry at ICE, but Trump is the cause of all this mess. Trump alone.



If Trump is asking for more dollars for ICE now that is ass-backwards.

Things Trump should have known about ICE..but never read the briefings. Too busy texting about Mad Max and Pocahantis...

from 2014.

Big Money As Private Immigrant Jails Boom
 
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The reason ICE is so promently in the news is because Donald Trump put them forefront into an immigration crisis of his own making.

ICE is a tool in the immigration tool box. What Donald Trump did was to take oversight of immigration detainees and refugees from HHS and gave that task to ICE.

ICE by US law is not equipt to handle children detainees, asylum seekers or immigrants already in the immigration judicial system.

By US law, ICE is supposed to give detainees over to HHS. That is the law.


https://www.ice.gov/doclib/about/offices/ero/pdf/2014-ice-immigration-removals.pdf#page=5

Read this ICE report from 2014...It is a blueprint to how and why Trump's zero tolerance policy was doomed from day one.


Trump disregarded US Law and put ICE in charge of detainees and child asylum seekers. He created this whole mess. People may be angry at ICE, but Trump is the cause of all this mess. Trump alone.



If Trump is asking for more dollars for ICE now that is ass-backwards.

Things Trump should have known about ICE..but never read the briefings. Too busy texting about Mad Max and Pocahantis...

from 2014.
ICE budget should be quadruled just for the tasks of hunting down and arresting illegal aliens. As for detention, that is ICE responsibility through their ERO subdepartment, which oversees the nation’s civil immigration detention system. Non-U.S. citizens who are apprehended and determined to need custodial supervision are placed in detention facilities. Those who are released from secure custody constitute ERO's "nondetained" docket. Every case, whether "detained" or "non-detained," remains part of ERO's caseload and is actively managed until it is formally closed. ERO processes and monitors detained and non-detained cases as they move through immigration court proceedings to conclusion. At that point, ERO executes the judge's order.
Through an aggressive inspections program, ICE ensures its facilities follow ICE's National Detention Standards (NDS). ERO's Detention Standards Compliance Unit ensures that detainees in ICE custody reside in safe, secure and humane environments and under appropriate conditions of confinement.

As part of all this, ERO coordinates closely with DHS partners to ensure the timely and safe transfer of unaccompanied alien children to the Office of Refugee Resettlement in accordance with both the Homeland Security Act of 2002 and the Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008. If you think they're not doing such a good job SHOW US why/how. Tossing in a long, complicated link doesn't cut it. You've got a keyboard. Use it and communicate.

As far as I've seen, considering the enormous quantity aspect of this (which detention regulations really aren't geared for), ICE and ORR have been doing pretty good job. Sure, some problems occur here and there, but would anyone expect perfection in a task of this magnitude. Let's look at the good, unless all you're trying to do is engage in a Trump bash.

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Clean, well-equipped kitchen


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Bedroom - clean and well equipped.

The Department of Health and Human Services hosted Breitbart News and other media on a tour of a facility in El Cajon, California, on Friday June 15, where migrant children are being sheltered after being separated from their parents. The facility at El Cajon, however, is not a “cage.” as was during the Obama years. It is now, a comfortable facility providing lodging, meals, clothing, medical care, education, recreation, counseling, and other services.

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It is run by a nonprofit organization called Southwest Key as part of the Department of Health and Human Services’ Unaccompanied Alien Children (UAC) Program, run by the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) in the Administration for Children and Familes (ACF).

The facility is located on a main street in a quiet, suburban neighborhood. It has 65 beds, occupied by boys ages 6 to 17. The rooms are spare, with three to four beds in each; the boys are responsible for cleaning the rooms and making their own beds. There is an outdoor recreation area with picnic tables and a small soccer pitch. There is a classroom area, and English lessons. The goal is “reunification”: letting each child depart with a legal guardian.

90% of the children at the shelter arrived at the border without adults; the other 10% were separated from the adults accompanying them. When the children arrive — usually brought by U.S. Border Patrol agents — they are greeted in the “intake” office, where they receive any urgent medical care, are assigned a case worker, and are given food, a shower, and new clothing. They are also given toiletries and lessons in hygiene — literally how to flush a toilet, brush their teeth, and operate the shower, which some of the children may have never seen in their lives.

The kids have limited access to telephones to call relatives, both in the U.S. and abroad. They receive therapy, both as individuals and in group sessions. They enjoy field trips to local museums, parks, and the zoo, where they can explore the city beyond the shelter. And they also have social activities, including a recent “prom” for which they dressed up. Quite a few people would say tat these kids are being provided for TOO MUCH(at US taxpayers' expense)

The real scandal is how the media have portrayed the shelters. When MSNBC’s Jacob Soboroff toured a similar facility this week in Brownsville, Texas, for example, he referred to the children there as being “incarcerated,” which is only true in the same sense that hospital patients, too, are not permitted to leave, for their safety.

Southwest Key has operated its facilities — 27 in total, across California, Arizona, and Texas — since 1997, when the U.S. Supreme Court decided in Flores v. Reno that unaccompanied illegal alien minors could not be held in detention facilities. This is not a new problem, even though it took Trump to make the media realize it existed.

HSS provided a video of the visit:

https://youtu.be/yzat9MRNIlg
 
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It doesn't mater how much money you give them to waste. It's still impossible to deport 12 million people. All of US doesn't have enough law enforcement and military personnel combined to oversee that, let alone just ICE lol
 
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