Red flags on suspicious gun owners

Babba

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This is an idea that should be adopted everywhere.

Today, the 51-year-old Democrat is California’s most aggressive planter of so-called red flags on suspicious gun owners who act like they shouldn’t be anywhere near a firearm. The goal is to seize guns from wackos.

Under California’s red flag law, enacted in 2014, a law enforcement official or immediate family member can ask a judge to issue a Gun Violence Restraining Order if a gun owner is feared to be a danger to himself or others. If the order is issued — and it almost always is — the gun owner’s weapons will be seized by law enforcement for up to a year. After a year, the restraining order can be renewed.

Elliott was the first to create a restraining order program. So far, she has obtained roughly 300 orders and 400 firearms have been seized, including roughly 40 assault weapons.
San Diego's city attorney is taking away hundreds of guns from those who shouldn't have them
 

Rev. Hellh0und

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What is the people who's guns were taken's due process rights to get them back if they want to try?


WE adopt this idea, you don't dent gun violence, not a bad thing to do if done right, but not going to solve or even dent the gun violence problem.
 
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I have no problem with this in theory, but like the "see something say something" motto, it can go horribly wrong or target certain groups. Also we also have seen couples that have a bad split and then retaliate with each other or a child pissed at his parents. Its easy to just report someone. It reminds me of swatting a bit. However, the positive side is we can draw attention to all the kooks who just might be dangerous. Its going to be one of those issues where we have to consider how much privacy we are willing to give up and how people will react to being "reported."
 
Mar 2012
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What is the people who's guns were taken's due process rights to get them back if they want to try?


WE adopt this idea, you don't dent gun violence, not a bad thing to do if done right, but not going to solve or even dent the gun violence problem.
My neighbor is a police officer and we have been talking about stuff like this recently and he says he doesnt want to do shit like this. They think this has the potential to take all their resources and time. It will send them down rabbit holes and not be able to do other jobs.
 
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How would everyone feel about giving up passwords or anonymity on FB, Twitter etc so it would be easier for law enforcement to see these accounts? Look for manifestos?
 

Babba

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How would everyone feel about giving up passwords or anonymity on FB, Twitter etc so it would be easier for law enforcement to see these accounts? Look for manifestos?
Obviously, it wouldn't have to go that far as evidenced by the three guys recently arrested as potential mass shooters. It wasn't necessary to do that.
 

Rev. Hellh0und

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My neighbor is a police officer and we have been talking about stuff like this recently and he says he doesnt want to do shit like this. They think this has the potential to take all their resources and time. It will send them down rabbit holes and not be able to do other jobs.


And in places like NJ, and CA the law will be abused.
 
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Obviously, it wouldn't have to go that far as evidenced by the three guys recently arrested as potential mass shooters. It wasn't necessary to do that.
But they had people in their inner circle who were concerned and reported them. We have also seen more mass shooters who got away with their manifestos because nobody reported them or they werent taken seriously. At some point, if a few arent reported that might be a step that will have to be taken.
 
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