Religious and political disunity has condemned Earth. Should we thank our religious leaders?

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Religious and political disunity has condemned Earth. Should we thank our religious leaders?

One needs not be a rocket scientist to recognize that it is our failure at the U.N. and other international bodies, who are working hard to unite the world politically and religiously; that is the core of our woes.

By “our” I mean the rank and file who are suffering and dying for our failing systems of political and religious governance.

We also pay heavily for our failed systems of religious and political governance. Billions upon billions of dollars wasted; especially the waste on pointless religions, in terms of law and morality.

If the world does not unify or allow the next few years to exacerbate and hasten the demise of Earth; this generation shows how vile it is as a species.

Individually, people are fantastic. As Jesus said, you got to love them all.

Without leadership, we are deadly. Earth needs a, --- Captain Jesus, --- and decent candidates are not being recognized. Strange, given that Jesus’ moral tenets mostly aren’t, and secular law has already made his love as law ideology fail.

I can remember 30 odd years ago looking at statistics and trying to project the future. I thought people would get worse over time. But the reverse has proven itself to be true. I thought the world would unify. But again I have been proven wrong due to our tolerance of religious and political con men.

Religious leaders in particular, as well as their slaved sheeple, --- that is you if you are religious, --- claim to have moral superiority granted to them by their, so called good gods.

All you religious are the vast majority; so why are you screwing up our world?

The world has had enough of your religious arguments, when you bother making them; which is seldom.

Not surprising that, given your inability to do good apologetics for your vile gods, and your propensity to use inquisition and jihad methods to make the points you cannot do mentally, intellectually or rationally.

Your religious violence and lack of tolerance has wounded the world and you do not care enough for your fellow man and children to leave them a place cleaner and better than what you found.

We are presently spending many trillions world-wide on our various forms of governance.

Our religious governance is not serving us well in areas where it says it excels.

Religions are in fact harmful to society as a whole. I can say that while recognizing that it had many uses in the past and that without it we would not be as advanced as we are.

I think we should cut our losses and divert those gains to the environment. I think we can and should scrap religions and proceed to do the better thing and use politics as our only law. It has earned it.

Your thoughts?

Regards

DL
 
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Yeah, this is above the level of discourse on PH, I doubt you will get much debate here other than insults and derogatory comments. Personally, I think you have something here, but I cant nail it down completely. There is a large segment of the population that absolutely has to have something greater than themselves to believe in, and that is never going to change.
 
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Yeah, this is above the level of discourse on PH, I doubt you will get much debate here other than insults and derogatory comments. Personally, I think you have something here, but I cant nail it down completely. There is a large segment of the population that absolutely has to have something greater than themselves to believe in, and that is never going to change.
I do not mind that as I think it natural, but I do mind that we invent guys in the sky instead of looking for the best human for a given task.

That focus is what must change, as Jesus indicated. He had some good ideas mixed in with the poor morals that the scribes put in his mouth.

I agree with your first and constantly seek sites with intelligent people.
I cannot learn from those who lack intelligence unless I reverse what they say.

Regards
DL
 
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Yeah, this is above the level of discourse on PH, I doubt you will get much debate here other than insults and derogatory comments. Personally, I think you have something here, but I cant nail it down completely. There is a large segment of the population that absolutely has to have something greater than themselves to believe in, and that is never going to change.
That is the monumental mindfuck of the concept of original sin. Your creator made you, and you are fucked up for getting here, so you must submit to what others around you say is "HIS" will.
 
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I do not mind that as I think it natural, but I do mind that we invent guys in the sky instead of looking for the best human for a given task.

That focus is what must change, as Jesus indicated. He had some good ideas mixed in with the poor morals that the scribes put in his mouth.

I agree with your first and constantly seek sites with intelligent people.
I cannot learn from those who lack intelligence unless I reverse what they say.

Regards
DL
We have a few posters that fill your expectations, but not many are interested in religious threads, those mostly attract the zealots and uncritical thinkers.
 
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That is the monumental mindfuck of the concept of original sin. Your creator made you, and you are fucked up for getting here, so you must submit to what others around you say is "HIS" will.
The "original sin" concept was added to religion to give total control to the religious leadership, one is "doomed" unless they fulfill all expectations of the leaders, what ever they decide those are to be, in many American religious groups it is how much money you send the leader for a "faith seed"
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That is the monumental mindfuck of the concept of original sin. Your creator made you, and you are fucked up for getting here, so you must submit to what others around you say is "HIS" will.
You might have noted that the Jewish religion has no Original sin concept. That idiocy was a Christian false guilt project.

This Bishop has something to say about that Christian false guilt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6I5VSZVqc

He also shows the false guilt involved in accepting Jesus as a scapegoat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKNup9gEBdg

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We have a few posters that fill your expectations, but not many are interested in religious threads, those mostly attract the zealots and uncritical thinkers.
I hear you, but like Jesus, I have to go to the ill who need the help the most.
FMPOV, the religious are doing the most damage to us.

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I hear you, but like Jesus, I have to go to the ill who need the help the most.
FMPOV, the religious are doing the most damage to us.

Regards
DL
This thread may be too heavy for our religious contingent to participate, they are mostly interested in "praying away the gay" threads and "gays forcing Godly Christian bakers to bake gay marriage cakes" threads. With an occasional "abortion is against God's will" thread...
 
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This thread may be too heavy for our religious contingent to participate, they are mostly interested in "praying away the gay" threads and "gays forcing Godly Christian bakers to bake gay marriage cakes" threads. With an occasional "abortion is against God's will" thread...
The religious hierarchies have been complaining for at least 15 years now of the lack of good apologists which they see as contributing to the shrinking religions.

That is likely true to a small point as they do not want to admit that people are just getting our because their moral are growing and their gullibility is shrinking.

The next generation should kill off most religions, if they get a chance to live.

The U.N. says that ecological hell is 10 years away.

Regards
DL