Say What You Will About Trump, But His Tactics On North Korea Are Working

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Say what you will about Trump, but his tactics on North Korea are working

Yeah, Baby! :D

Say what you will about Trump, but after some very bad years of active nuclear testing and missile shooting, disarmament on the Korean peninsula has already occurred. Things are quieter and two leaders who previously weren’t talking – ever – now are. Sure the United States should remain vigilant, but much of the penis-wagging and button-pushing is over. To say no success has occurred is factually incorrect. Just getting rid of the war cry is enough to cheer over.

Say what you will about Trump, but his tactics on North Korea are working
 
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Our own Intelligence Chiefs contradicted President Trump in their testimony to Congress on January 29th, saying that North Korea is NOT denuclearizing, and remains a nuclear threat.

President Trump then falsely claimed that the Intelligence Chiefs had been 'misquoted', even though their testimony had been shown on live TV, and their prepared statements had been quoted word-for-word in all of the nation's major daily newspapers the following day.
 
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What makes you think it is working. Kim is playing him after Trump acted like a fool and started a fight with him causing Kim to lob missiles in our direction and now Trump is trying to get it back to what it was before he took office and picked fights. Kim won't give up nukes and every President except Trump understood that the only thing that works is ignore him and place sanctions on the country. Meanwhile Trump is busy stopping the tariffs he himself leveled on China in another fight he picked and now caves over, even as his BFF Putin is threatening to lob missiles off the US coast to the sound of silence. Trump is a hot mess. He doesn't understand diplomacy which is why he keeps making messes and then trying to clean his own mess up.

We can no longer count on allies to help us out of his global messes as he alienated all of them.
 
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What makes you think it is working. Kim is playing him after Trump acted like a fool and started a fight with him causing Kim to lob missiles in our direction and now Trump is trying to get it back to what it was before he took office and picked fights. Kim won't give up nukes and every President except Trump understood that the only thing that works is ignore him and place sanctions on the country. Meanwhile Trump is busy stopping the tariffs he himself leveled on China in another fight he picked and now caves over, even as his BFF Putin is threatening to lob missiles off the US coast to the sound of silence. Trump is a hot mess. He doesn't understand diplomacy which is why he keeps making messes and then trying to clean his own mess up.

We can no longer count on allies to help us out of his global messes as he alienated all of them.
Very nice summation. What a clusterfuck.
 

Singularity

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I love it when Trump supporters talk about North Korea. By unilaterally tearing up the Iran Deal, this president has done more damage to the cause of non-proliferation than any leader in modern history, and the only reason Iran isn't testing a bomb right now is because the Europeans have rallied together to clean up his mess and keep the accord intact.

In its place, Trump has lent more prestige to Kim Jong Un than the North Koreans could have ever previously dreamed at virtually no cost. He has made a show of blowing up a couple of test sites he no longer needs ... so what? It's established in today's world that, having proven you can build a warhead, you don't need to continually test them to prove the ability to build more or to verify the functionality of the ones you've built.

North Korea will not give up a single one of its warheads during Donald Trump's presidency, and that would not be enough because they could easily replace it. The cat is fully out of the bag. Trump could recognize that and build a world that accepts a nuclear-armed North Korea in exchange for other concessions from them, or he could isolate them to the point where they may actually contemplate denuclearization at some point.

Instead he is just lying like he usually does, Kim is taking home the embrace of those lies and U.S. foreign policy is a complete joke.
 
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Trump's effect on Iran has been to make it even more rightwing and confrontational.
Quite right. Their Foreign Minister just resigned today, I guess in disgrace. He was the guy who negotiated the nuclear agreement with John Kerry.

Iran's Foreign Minister Announces Sudden Resignation

As the Associated Press reports, Zarif's resignation is a setback for President Hassan Rouhani:


"Zarif's resignation leaves Iran's relatively moderate President Hassan Rouhani without one of his main allies in pushing the Islamic Republic toward more negotiation with the West. Analysts have said Rouhani faces growing political pressure from hard-liners within the government as the unraveling nuclear deal further strains the country's long-weakened economy."​
 

Babba

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The OP is a joke, right? Trump gave NK the concession of suspending joint military exercises in South Korea and North Korea went on its merry way with its nukes. I don't know how it can be considered that Trump's tactics are working. That's just silly.