Senate Democrats Oppose Gun Control Bill That GOP Senators Support

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Here's how politically tricky the gun-control debate has become: A Republican-controlled Congress might soon vote on a bill to strengthen gun-control laws in the wake of the Florida shooting, and it's the Democrats who aren't happy about it.

Even though one of their own is co-sponsoring the Fix NICS Act, which would punish federal agencies that don't submit criminal records to the national criminal background check system for firearms, Senate Democrats have spent their first few days back in Congress this week dissing the bill.

“What will prevent future tragedy? Comprehensive background checks will. The Fix NICS bill will not,” Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Tuesday on the Senate floor. “Let’s not set our sights too narrow or squander this moment.”

It's not that Democrats don't want to patch up what both sides say are obvious holes in the background-check system; it's that they think this is a small step to reinforce an existing law rather than expand it. And if they support it, that might be the end of gun control reforms in this Congress, since Republicans will be reluctant to act on much else.

Note: Bullshit. These assholes simply don't want to lose the "GOP is the NRA's stooge" line of horseshit, IMO.

This leaves Democrats toying with opposing the one gun-control bill that has a realistic shot of passing Congress right now, one championed by their most vocal gun-control advocate, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.). It's a weird look, for sure.

Murphy doesn't want his own bill brought up for a vote without a guarantee from Republicans to allow votes on other Democratic priorities, like universal background checks. “If we were only to debate the Fix NICS Act,” Murphy told reporters Tuesday, “we would be slamming the door in the face of all these kids who are demanding change.”

That's a sharp turn from what Murphy said in November, calling his bill the most important piece of bipartisan gun-control legislation since the Senate voted on (and didn't pass) a universal background check proposal after the Sandy Hook shooting in Newtown, Conn.

There is no such bill circulating after the massacre at a Parkland, Fla., high school. The lack of viable gun-control legislation in Congress right now is also precisely why Democrats feel pressured to resist this incremental step.

Democrats are fully aware that this vote is their only point of leverage in the debate, so they've got to play hardball to try to extract as much as they can from it. The Post's Ed O'Keefe reports they're also working with gun-control groups to find a way to politicize this whole issue to their advantage in November's midterm elections.

It's difficult to see another gun-control measure coming up for a vote right now. There is a bipartisan bill to raise the age limit on purchasing rifles circulating in the Senate, but President Trump has backed off that proposal in the past few days, severely stalling its momentum. The other potential area of compromise — on whether to ban bump stocks used in the Las Vegas shooting — is now mostly in the hands of the Trump administration, not Congress.

Left with this one piece of legislation, Senate Democrats' strategy appears to go like this: By openly contemplating holding out their votes to move forward on this modest bill, they are hoping to force Republicans to allow a debate and vote on other gun control measures — like universal background checks, or banning assault weapons.

That doesn't mean that those gun-control measures will actually pass. In fact, in a Congress that requires 60 votes to do anything major and with only 49 Democrats, more significant gun-control legislation almost certainly won’t pass the Senate, let alone the more conservative House.

But at the very least, Democrats can say they got a Republican-controlled Congress to vote on gun control. They might even win over a GOP convert or two, as after the 2016 Orlando shooting when then-Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) changed her vote in favor of Democrats' proposal to prevent suspected terrorists on watch lists from buying guns. (That proposal and other Republican ones failed.)

Gun-control advocates measure their victories extremely incrementally right now. After Parkland, some Senate Democrats have lamented not acting on gun control when they had control of Congress and the White House in 2009 and 2010. But they didn't have the votes then, even when Democrats had a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.

So getting a Republican-controlled Senate to just allow votes on gun-control measures would be no small thing politically. And Democrats probably do want to use this moment, if they can seize it, to identify significant converts.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/02/28/why-senate-democrats-are-considering-holding-up-a-gun-control-bill-from-one-of-their-own/?utm_term=.6a3e8bf5ad2f

Before you reply, please cast a glance at this thread from yesterday:

http://politicalhotwire.com/current-events/188943-expired-password-led-failure-enter-gun-crime-convictions-into-database.html

Democratic Senators don't GAF about gun control. They only GAF whether they can profit politically from the issue of gun control.

Fucking sociopaths, all of them.


Your thoughts?
 
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Macduff

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/02/28/why-senate-democrats-are-considering-holding-up-a-gun-control-bill-from-one-of-their-own/?utm_term=.6a3e8bf5ad2f

Before you reply, please cast a glance at this thread from yesterday:

http://politicalhotwire.com/current-events/188943-expired-password-led-failure-enter-gun-crime-convictions-into-database.html

Democratic Senators don't GAF about gun control. They only GAF whether they can profit politically from the issue of gun control.

Fucking sociopaths, all of them.


Your thoughts?
I think that's part of the corruption that sets in after anyone spends time in DC. They convince themselves that them being in office is the greater good. So anything that helps them stay in office is serving the greater good. Republicans do the same thing. They spent years running against Obamacare. Had how many repeal votes? And then when the country elects a president who would actually sign one of those repeal bills... nothing. So I'm not surprised to see Democrats would rather run on gun control than actually do anything about it.
 
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Macduff

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/02/28/why-senate-democrats-are-considering-holding-up-a-gun-control-bill-from-one-of-their-own/?utm_term=.6a3e8bf5ad2f

Before you reply, please cast a glance at this thread from yesterday:

http://politicalhotwire.com/current-events/188943-expired-password-led-failure-enter-gun-crime-convictions-into-database.html

Democratic Senators don't GAF about gun control. They only GAF whether they can profit politically from the issue of gun control.

Fucking sociopaths, all of them.


Your thoughts?
I think that's part of the corruption that sets in after anyone spends time in DC. They convince themselves that them being in office is the greater good. So anything that helps them stay in office is serving the greater good. Republicans do the same thing. They spent years running against Obamacare. Had how many repeal votes? And then when the country elects a president who would actually sign one of those repeal bills... nothing. So I'm not surprised to see Democrats would rather run on gun control than actually do anything about it.
 
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Playing politics with this issue is flat out wrong.. yet both sides do it.
Trump mixing a better control over the reporting into the NICS database in the first place.. now the GOP trying to use such a small measure as their line "we did gun control, now everybody shut up". that's a joke.
The Dems to block it, because it doesn't go far enough, is not right either. Yet they definitely want to get something more, want to use the momentum.
 
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