Senate gives Donald's emergency declaration the bigly smackdown

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Such a move will push even more Republicans into to Democrat camp.

The Senate rejection of his declaration is a "warning shot" to Trump that the Legislative branch is unwilling to concede more power to the Executive Branch.
Him vetoing that would be an answer to that "warning shot" of "fuck you, I'll do as I please."
That would be unwise of him to say the least.
True ^ but as we all know, the Trump Dumpster does magnificently unwise things each and every day.
 
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Trump will give the resolution a bigly VETO which will not be overridden!
Sure. They expect a veto. However, when the courts rule on the challenges to on the “emergency” declaration, the lawyers will now have to overcome an additional hurdle. The constitution gives the authority to spend money or not spend money to Congress. Not the president. Now Trump’s “emergency” declaration as at odds with the will of Congress.

Anyone who wants to claim they are a “constutionalist” is exposed as a fraud if they support the concept of the emergency declaration when it is for a money spending project that congress expressly voted down
 
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Sure. They expect a veto. However, when the courts rule on the challenges to on the “emergency” declaration, the lawyers will now have to overcome an additional hurdle. The constitution gives the authority to spend money or not spend money to Congress. Not the president. Now Trump’s “emergency” declaration as at odds with the will of Congress.

Anyone who wants to claim they are a “constutionalist” is exposed as a fraud if they support the concept of the emergency declaration when it is for a money spending project that congress expressly voted down
The emergency declaration is legal. Obama did it to help foreign countries and that was Okay. Trump wants to do it to help our country and somehow you see that as bad. Democrats show they have a distorted view of priorities
 
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Sure. They expect a veto. However, when the courts rule on the challenges to on the “emergency” declaration, the lawyers will now have to overcome an additional hurdle. The constitution gives the authority to spend money or not spend money to Congress. Not the president. Now Trump’s “emergency” declaration as at odds with the will of Congress.

Anyone who wants to claim they are a “constutionalist” is exposed as a fraud if they support the concept of the emergency declaration when it is for a money spending project that congress expressly voted down
This'll be akin to Mr Toad's Wild Ride.
Buckle up if you haven't already for the ongoing shit-show.

 
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Well Robert, how do you think that's gonna go? Republicans lose either way. If SCOTUS determines that the Constitution isn't important, the 2 out of 3 Americans who think Donald's non-emergency emergency is BS will be pissed at those who supported it. And the next Dem president will be certain to declare a real emergency on climate change or gun violence.

Slippery slope my friend - I don't advise taking that route, but your decision.
False equivalence.
 

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Sure. They expect a veto. However, when the courts rule on the challenges to on the “emergency” declaration, the lawyers will now have to overcome an additional hurdle. The constitution gives the authority to spend money or not spend money to Congress. Not the president. Now Trump’s “emergency” declaration as at odds with the will of Congress.

Anyone who wants to claim they are a “constutionalist” is exposed as a fraud if they support the concept of the emergency declaration when it is for a money spending project that congress expressly voted down
if they don't vote to override his veto doesn't that help Trump's chances in court ? It's the method Congress set up themselves. Now, they propose to take the president to court because it didn't turn out the way they hoped it would. How is that any different than what they're claiming Trump is doing? Courts typically don't like to settle political disputes. If Congress doesn't like the powers they gave the president it's not up to the court to fix the law. It's up to them.
 
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