Senate GOP waves Trump off early motion to dismiss impeachment charges

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Senate Republicans are telling President Trump's defense team to prepare for a full Senate trial, stating that any motion for an early dismissal of impeachment charges likely won't have the votes to pass.

The warnings are a tacit acknowledgement that it would be politically risky to simply discard articles of impeachment - even though all Senate Republicans may ultimately opt to acquit the president.

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), an adviser to the Senate GOP leadership and a member of the Senate Judiciary and Intelligence committees, on Wednesday said a vote to immediately dismiss articles of impeachment and avoid a trial won't work.


here's a novel idea . Why don't Republicans just tell Trump the resigned and get it over with ?
 
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Senate Republicans are telling President Trump's defense team to prepare for a full Senate trial, stating that any motion for an early dismissal of impeachment charges likely won't have the votes to pass.

The warnings are a tacit acknowledgement that it would be politically risky to simply discard articles of impeachment - even though all Senate Republicans may ultimately opt to acquit the president.

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), an adviser to the Senate GOP leadership and a member of the Senate Judiciary and Intelligence committees, on Wednesday said a vote to immediately dismiss articles of impeachment and avoid a trial won't work.


here's a novel idea . Why don't Republicans just tell Trump the resigned and get it over with ?
In all honesty, it would probably be the most prudent thing Trump could do. Avoid the embarrassment of having the stain of an impeachment to follow your history for decades to follow; Nixon realized that and resigned from office, however I don't think Trump's ego would allow him to follow suite.
 

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They are right. It won't work. They have to prove the Democrat's implications are false or suffer political suicide.

Trump wants the easy way out again. But no.

And Democrats saying "why can't Reps tell Trump to resign" is also the easy way out.

If any person (d or r) thinks that is justice, then you shouldn't be listen to.
 
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There is no reason for President Trump to resign. None.

McConnell et al are putting real pressure on Schumer (who does not want a trial in his lap). Plus putting pressure on the five Dims Senators who are running for their parties nomination. They won't be able to campaign during any Senate trial and McConnell is leting them know now that if the House does something as foolish as send any Bills of Impeachment to the Senate they will be spending much of primary season in Washington and not on the campaign trail; kiss the early primaries goodbye.
 
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In all honesty, it would probably be the most prudent thing Trump could do. Avoid the embarrassment of having the stain of an impeachment to follow your history for decades to follow; Nixon realized that and resigned from office, however I don't think Trump's ego would allow him to follow suite.


Nixon resigned when the Republicans sent Howard Baker to the White House to tell the President that he would be convicted in the Senate. No such thing has or will occur here.
 
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There is no reason for President Trump to resign. None.

McConnell et al are putting real pressure on Schumer (who does not want a trial in his lap). Plus puting pressure on the five Dims Senators who are running for their parties nomination. They won't be able to campaign during any Senate trial and McConnell is leting them know now that if the House does something as foolish as send any Bills of Impeachmnet to the Senate they will be spending much of primary season in in Washington.
The Senators first job is being Senator. They will be getting more recognition sitting in a trial than they would on foot in their State. They can give evenings interviews to their State's local TV news, radio stations and newspapers.
 
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Nixon resigned when the Republicans sent Howard Baker to the White House to tell the President that he would be convicted in the Senate. No such thing has or will occur here.
Funny thing about Nixon and Trump and their problems with charities.

Trump Charity:
The actual case was not tried based on criminal law but rather civil therefore there were no criminal chargers for anybody.
For the most part, charity laws and regulations are not subject to across-the-board enforcement at the state level or by the IRS.

The closest precedent involving the White House and charitable transgressions involved
President Richard Nixon. Nixon had to pay more than $450,000 in back taxes and interest as a result of falsified documents from him
to take a tax deduction on the value of his pre-presidential papers he said he’d donated to the National Archives prior to July 25, 1969.
Plus in the middle of the Watergate inquiry what people forget is it was alleged that Nixon exchanged $2 million in dairy industry campaign contributions for increasing milk subsidies. That in fact plus the cover up of the break in led Nixon to resign.
**I KNOW RIGHT WHO KNEW TRUMP AND NIXON EVEN HAD THIS IN COMMON


Anyway back to Trump he has to worry about the IRS now.
That’s because he has admitted that his campaign took advantage of the foundation’s expenditures to boost his 2016 presidential bid. In particular, the political campaign took control over the disbursement of $2.8 million to veterans’ causes at a televised fundraiser that doubled as a campaign event.
Because tax law clearly bars charities like the Trump Foundation from attempting to “influence the outcome of any specific public election,” the foundation could owe a 10% excise tax of the amount involved — $282,300.
The precedent for this would be the $2,500 Trump paid to the IRS in 2016 after reimbursing the Foundation for the $25,000 Bondi campaign contribution.
 

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The Senators first job is being Senator. They will be getting more recognition sitting in a trial than they would on foot in their State. They can give evenings interviews to their State's local TV news, radio stations and newspapers.
IE; campaigning.
 

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They are right. It won't work. They have to prove the Democrat's implications are false or suffer political suicide.

Trump wants the easy way out again. But no.

And Democrats saying "why can't Reps tell Trump to resign" is also the easy way out.

If any person (d or r) thinks that is justice, then you shouldn't be listen to.
no. Actually. Anyone that thinks this is the "easy way out" shouldn't be listened to. See what I did there? It already hasn't been easy on anyone. Each day this president remains in office he's putting this country through hell. Each day the Republican's refuse to put a check on him this country is being held hostage by a president who doesn't deserve to be in office. McConnell could end all of this with one visit to the WH. Or, in the alternative, he could sway public opinion by coming out on the side of the rule of law. He could save this country from having to endure any more of this charade. And in the process very likely save his own party.
 
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IE; campaigning.
Instead of campaigning. The other candidates will be trying to knock them off at their own primaries in some cases if they are up for their seat in the 2020 election or running for the Democrat Presidencial nomination. I don't think a primary for any Democratic seat occurs until at least March 2020.
 
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