Should we declare gods public enemy # 1.? Do you understand why we call immoral gods,

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Should we declare gods public enemy # 1.? Do you understand why we call immoral gods, “Gods”?

Not all gods are immoral but our mainstream ones are definitely that.

God’s law, should he/she/it ever show up, --- is supposed to become earth’s law, imposed by force, --- as need be, --- and the religious way, --- instead of sound moral arguments.

God is demonstrably not moral.

One of the more important commandments to us is that of not killing humans. God kills humans.

I assume that that law would be high on our commandment list; commands to a slave from a master. Yet God exempts himself from that good law and does this evil will and kills humans.

That commandment is a subjective position and as I can think of a few instances where killing a human would be the moral thing to do. That commandment is thus immoral.

I do not think it’s a good idea to give an obviously and demonstrably immoral Gods respect but many theists do.

The power to make human laws should never be given to our immoral gods. Especially Yahweh and Allah, who I think are the bottom of the barrel on morals.

Human law seeks to be moral and humane and should never be putrefied by the immoral Gods that mankind has create in our image.

To do so would be insane.

So tell me please, --- fellow religionist and believers, --- something I do not understand.

Why you and I call our gods, “God”, --- when he is such an immoral character, --- fictional or not?

Are we such immoral entities ourselves? I am immoral. Are you?

Regards
DL

P.S. When you reply, I might have to do this to those who will not answer from the heart and try to use their holy book of myths and turn to preaching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O1_3zBUKM8
Remember also my fellow religionists and believers, all clergy of all faiths are liars. God himself told me this when he told me to think more demographically.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjRy29R4gP8
 
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Haven't you heard? The marxists-leninists-stalinists already declared god as public enemy no. 1 -- opiate of the masses, as I recall. The better to inculcate communist dogma was the intent.

Let me guess -- we then replace all religions with gnostic truths which is such a secret you couldn't even expound them here.

duh?
 
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Haven't you heard? The marxists-leninists-stalinists already declared god as public enemy no. 1 -- opiate of the masses, as I recall. The better to inculcate communist dogma was the intent.

Let me guess -- we then replace all religions with gnostic truths which is such a secret you couldn't even expound them here.

duh?
There are no secrets and if you were not such a loathsome prick, I would walk you through it really really slowly so that you could keep up.

Regards
DL
 
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Those laws are made for humans, they don't apply to God.

It doesn't exist in the realm of morality, that is a human concept, not a Godly one.

Its like you spraying an ant hill in your backyard with Raid.

I'm sure the ants would think you are immoral for killing thousands but they don't live in your realm, they are ants.
 

Blues63

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Should we declare gods public enemy # 1.? Do you understand why we call immoral gods, “Gods”?

Not all gods are immoral but our mainstream ones are definitely that.

God’s law, should he/she/it ever show up, --- is supposed to become earth’s law, imposed by force, --- as need be, --- and the religious way, --- instead of sound moral arguments.

God is demonstrably not moral.

One of the more important commandments to us is that of not killing humans. God kills humans.

I assume that that law would be high on our commandment list; commands to a slave from a master. Yet God exempts himself from that good law and does this evil will and kills humans.

That commandment is a subjective position and as I can think of a few instances where killing a human would be the moral thing to do. That commandment is thus immoral.

I do not think it’s a good idea to give an obviously and demonstrably immoral Gods respect but many theists do.

The power to make human laws should never be given to our immoral gods. Especially Yahweh and Allah, who I think are the bottom of the barrel on morals.

Human law seeks to be moral and humane and should never be putrefied by the immoral Gods that mankind has create in our image.

To do so would be insane.

So tell me please, --- fellow religionist and believers, --- something I do not understand.

Why you and I call our gods, “God”, --- when he is such an immoral character, --- fictional or not?

Are we such immoral entities ourselves? I am immoral. Are you?

Regards
DL

P.S. When you reply, I might have to do this to those who will not answer from the heart and try to use their holy book of myths and turn to preaching.
Remember also my fellow religionists and believers, all clergy of all faiths are liars. God himself told me this when he told me to think more demographically.

One has to accept that God and gods are the product of a primitive mindset, therefore the gods reflect the values and beliefs of the group that invented them. The ancient world was an extremely brutal period in our history and the nature of the gods reflects this brutality. Religion is the product of our earliest and most primitive attempts to create an epistemology in order to make sense of the world around us and it provided a belief system that offered comfort in the midst of this violent world.

Gods are often infantile and violent with some outrageous 'anger issues', but these attributes elicited the fear required for the various priestly classes to maintain control. However, the morality is questionable as you state, but in some pantheons (the Greek for instance), the gods were to be instructive on how not to behave as opposed to being examples of the acme of morality.
 
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